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Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Hello everyone!

I would appreciate if you could share some advice.
My husband got a new job in Basel and we are going to move there from Winterthur in the upcoming spring.

What can you say about Pratteln? Is it a good area to live? I have read somewhere that it is industrial.
But we have seen that there are a lot of new apartments right next to the train station and it is like 10 minutes by train to Basel Bahnhof, so sounds attractive.

As an alternative we have seen an apartment in the area close to St Jakob train station (Birsfelden district). Any negative opinion about that?

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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Pratteln comes in two parts, South of the station where its a lot more residential and then north of the station where you have the highway and the industrial and commercial parts (e.g. IKEA). Its definitely one of those up and coming areas, and has become a lot more family friendly over the years.

I would personally choose Birsfelden though, only because its closer to the City, although Pratteln is on the very end of the tram network too.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

I lived in Pratteln from 2002-2007. It was rather grim in places, and the schooling environment rather challenging. However, it has improved since then, I'm told.

I'd suggest Rheinfelden.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Thank you, Castro!

In fact SBB says it takes only 10 minutes by train to get to Basel Bahnhof from Pratteln, but 20 minutes by bus from Birsfelden. I am not that much familiar with morning traffic in Basel, but I would like to avoid spending ages in the bus in the mornings if that is the case...
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I lived in Pratteln from 2002-2007. It was rather grim in places, and the schooling environment rather challenging. However, it has improved since then, I'm told.

I'd suggest Rheinfelden.
That is sad, but probably after 8 years things have improved there?
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

If you're only interested in easy access to Basel SBB, then Binningen, Bottmingen are pretty close and on the tram network. The number 3 trams takes 15-20 minutes from Birsfelden, Hard to SBB, and are far more regular than the Pratteln<->SBB service. The buses are also more regular at peak times. Buses often have their own bus lanes but are of course more impacted by heavy traffic. Even so, instead of comparing with ten minutes on the train, you need to look at journey + wait time. Ten minutes is great - unless you have to wait 30 because you arrived a minute after it left.

You should have a look at the map http://www.tnw.ch/fahrplan-und-linie...iniennetz-tnw/ and try journey times using http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html
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The number 3 trams takes 15-20 minutes from Birsfelden, Hard to SBB
The number 3 doesn't actually go to SBB; it swings right at Aeschenplatz and heads off on a frolic of its own.

To be fair, Aeschenplatz to SBB then has a choice of some 3 trams or a 5-minute walk; but it's that kind of thing that puts an annoying kink in a daily commute. The 14 from Gellert has the same problem.
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The number 3 trams takes 15-20 minutes from Birsfelden, Hard to SBB, and are far more regular than the Pratteln<->SBB service.
Well, actually where we visited a flat there is a bus stop with bus 36/37 and no tram...
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Thank you for your comment! Yes, we are considering Binningen and Bottingen as well, but have not seen a suitable apartment there yet
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The number 3 doesn't actually go to SBB; it swings right at Aeschenplatz and heads off on a frolic of its own.

To be fair, Aeschenplatz to SBB then has a choice of some 3 trams or a 5-minute walk; but it's that kind of thing that puts an annoying kink in a daily commute. The 14 from Gellert has the same problem.
Weeeell, technically you could stay on the 14 (and 1) to SBB, but it'd take a while
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Thank you for your comment! Yes, we are considering Binningen and Bottingen as well, but have not seen a suitable apartment there yet
Probably more expensive as well - much nicer areas! Though Binningen has low tax for BL.

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The number 3 doesn't actually go to SBB; it swings right at Aeschenplatz and heads off on a frolic of its own.

To be fair, Aeschenplatz to SBB then has a choice of some 3 trams or a 5-minute walk; but it's that kind of thing that puts an annoying kink in a daily commute. The 14 from Gellert has the same problem.
At peak times, there's rarely more than a 2 minute wait for that connection.

I've been getting the 34 bus and changing for the number 2 trams for 7 years. 2-3 minute wait, since the timetables are constructed to connect. It's really not that bad!
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Probably more expensive as well - much nicer areas! Though Binningen has low tax for BL.

At peak times, there's rarely more than a 2 minute wait for that connection.

I've been getting the 34 bus and changing for the number 2 trams for 7 years. 2-3 minute wait, since the timetables are constructed to connect. It's really not that bad!
2-3 minutes waiting for a tram?! The things you country folk have to put up with. In Zürich you never have to wait for more than a few seconds between connections.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

There is also Allschwil to consider. There are a few buses/trams that head into the city and it doesn't take long. If you can be on the 48 bus route, you'll have direct access to the SBB. Otherwise there is also the 6 & 8 trams that will get you close.

Allschwil is a quiet, nice place and close to France for good shopping
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Couldn't agree more, Allschwil is lovely. Super handy for the tram, really calm. Very happy here.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

I would be very cautious with moving because the whole notion of living in Prattle(n) suggest that lots of gibberish and gossiping must be going on in the town ... I prefer staying in Baden on those winters days pampering in relaxation and tranquility of warm baths.
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At peak times, there's rarely more than a 2 minute wait for that connection.

I've been getting the 34 bus and changing for the number 2 trams for 7 years. 2-3 minute wait, since the timetables are constructed to connect. It's really not that bad!
I believe it. In the grand scheme of things, worrying about a couple of minutes wasted for a tram change is pretty low down.

I'm anyway like a pampered cat; my bike ride to the office is so short that I take the long way round just to get the exercise. I did for a fair time do the daily slog to Zurich though, so I feel for those who still have the daily hassle.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Basel is book-ended by heavy industry in France to the North, and West in Pratteln. Unfortunately in Pratteln you have, from North-to-South, the Rhine, the heavy industry, the big box stores, and then finally the residential areas. Sort of opposite to what would be livable. This means the Rhine really isn't very accessible in Pratteln (although it probably is from the German side?). Pratteln is separated from Basel by a fairly substantial green-belt, so it's not really something you can walk. Even on a bicycle it's a bit of a boring grind.

Birsfelden is sort of like a small village that's physically connected to Breite in Basel. You can probably walk to downtown Basel in 20 minutes. The low parts are the nicer ones, up the hill you have mostly Europaisch suburban-like housing and no services. The area between the main drag and the Rhine, and the Birs itself are pleasant and parking is not a nightmare. There's some light industry directly next to the greenbelt but Birsfelden has the nicest parks on the Rhine in greater Basel. My impression though is that apartments on the Birs and those with Rhine views tend to go to Swiss citizens. I never got a call-back anyway.

The Co-op in Birsfelden is probably the best in Basel (esp. for meat) that I've frequented but that's sort of damning with faint praise. The Hieber at Grenzache in Germany is one of the larger supermarkets in the area and very good quality, probably on par with Match in France for produce.

I don't know much about Binningen and Bottmingen other than there's a pool in one of the two. Lot's of auslanders live in Allschwil because of the international school there. The parts of Allwschwil I've visited, adjacent to Basel, seem like concrete jungles but I assume it becomes more suburban the deeper you go. It's near to the airport, however.
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Allschwil is a quiet...............
The 'dorf zone' is on the flight path. Quiet it isn't.
The bits bordering Basel are better, but there's no escaping the noise.
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Re: Move to Pratteln - is it a good idea?

Big thanks to tormund for an explicit comment!

Thanks a lot to everyone commented! You helped us!
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The 'dorf zone' is on the flight path. Quiet it isn't.
Basel has an airport?! Why?
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