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Nalpac90 21.12.2015 22:41

Renting a flat with a dog
 
I am relocating to Zurich for a job and I have a dog. I have been looking at flats every day for months in Zurich Kreis 4,5, 9, Schlieren or Dietikon. I'm finding it so difficult to find somewhere and I really don't want to live at my boyfriend's parents for much longer than 3 months.

I thought Switzerland was so dog friendly, they're allowed everywhere unlike in the UK so why is it so hard to find accommodation!

Any advice? Or even better anyone moving out or know anyone moving out!

Kondi 21.12.2015 22:47

Re: Renting a flat with a dog
 
Hi
it's depending, where you moving to. Best thing are "Genossenschaftswohnungen" because, they are usualy fair trade and human. An other good way to find an apartement is to have a look at the post of comercial centers.
Good luck.

Medea Fleecestealer 21.12.2015 23:34

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It's not easy with you not being "here" either. If landlords/agencies have plenty of choice of people already living here why would they put a remote application top of their list? Hopefully, you'll have better luck once you're here.

Not sure I'd call Switzerland that dog friendly. Yes, they're allowed in more places than in the UK, but Switzerland's dog ownership laws/regulations are much more strict. You already know you'll have to do a mandatory SKN dog ownership course I hope.

Guest 21.12.2015 23:43

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http://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corne...se-please.html

This thread and the linked threads within it might get you a huge step closer to your dog-permitting flat :)

Papa Goose 22.12.2015 09:25

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Originally Posted by Nalpac90 (Post 2506491)
in Zurich Kreis 4,5, 9, Schlieren or Dietikon. I'm finding it so difficult to find somewhere

There lies the problem, search area. Zürich is a highly landlord driven market, put yourself in their shoes and they want minimum risk to their asset. Dinky's top the list of preferred tenants, single with a dog are bottom, and they are in the position to be very selective.

Look for properties inmore rural areas, away from town and city centres. We have been here 7 years moved 3 times and have 3 labradors, so It is absolutely possible to get a nice place with pooches.... you just have to look a little further afield.

MimusPolyglottos 22.12.2015 12:02

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A few months ago we had to find our first flat in Switzerland (Geneva) with a dog as well, so I know how frustrating it can be. Hang in there! I definitely echo what Medea said, I think not being present to view the flats and apply in person would be a much bigger handicap than having a dog. However, if you think the latter is an issue for your application, you might try getting a letter of recommendation from your current/former landlord attesting that your dog was tidy and quiet throughout your tenancy there. Good luck!

swisspea 22.12.2015 12:17

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General advice. Apply first, then if you are successful, ask if it's OK to have the dog. Explain that it's a small/well-trained/apartment-trained/non-barking sort of dog, and maybe you will be successful.

And make sure your dog is no problem to anyone - put it with a dog-walker if you have to, join a club, make sure the nails are trimmed, that you go to the vet regularly, and consider whether your dog is actually used to living alone, or if it really needs a garden or to be in a new situation (I assume it currently lives in a household full of people)...

I would not rule out apartments that do not say 'pet-friendly'.

But you do have to be willing to be honest, extremely mature and responsible for your pet.

Switzerland is 'pet friendly' in the sense that pets are out and about and allowed... but only if they are also extremely well-behaved and well-looked-after...

Papa Goose 22.12.2015 12:24

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Originally Posted by swisspea (Post 2506666)
General advice. Apply first, then if you are successful, ask if it's OK to have the dog.

I would be wary of not making full disclosure up front TBH. Switzerland is pet friendly, but you have to understand that doesn't mean there aren't restrictions and attitudes with regards dogs.

I would have references from previous landlords and neighbours regarding the behaviour of your dog IE no damage,and didn't bark etc, and ensure you have liability insurance for the dog in place so you can add a copy of the PL certificate with your application dossier, not mentioning your 4 legged friend until after.... I'm not sure about.

Focus on 'pets accepted' apartments, and ask the question of the agents on sites like Homegate etc.

Blueangel 22.12.2015 13:11

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If you're going to be out at work all day, it's worth looking at dog sitting services, such as City Dogs http://www.citydogs.ch/ . It's like a dog kindergarten and they're well looked after there.

Guest 22.12.2015 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Goose (Post 2506670)
I would be wary of not making full disclosure up front TBH. Switzerland is pet friendly, but you have to understand that doesn't mean there aren't restrictions and attitudes with regards dogs.

I would have references from previous landlords and neighbours regarding the behaviour of your dog IE no damage,and didn't bark etc, and ensure you have liability insurance for the dog in place so you can add a copy of the PL certificate with your application dossier, not mentioning your 4 legged friend until after.... I'm not sure about.

Focus on 'pets accepted' apartments, and ask the question of the agents on sites like Homegate etc.

True.
Note that there are multiple steps to getting a flat:
1. Finding an ad/getting a recommendation from someone
2. Applying for a viewing
3. Viewing
4. Sending the application form for the flat to your prospective landlord
5. Sending the signed contract to your prospective landlord

Permission to have pets (other than guinea pigs, hamsters etc. which are always allowed) is normally disclosed by the landlord either in the ad (in step 1) or in the contract (before step 5).
As a prospective tenant, the most honest way IMO is asking about permission for pets either when you apply for a viewing (in step 2) or when you appear at the viewing (step 3), or at the latest through declaring the pets when you send in the application form (step 4), so that the landlord knows from the get-go what he's dealing with.

If a landlord asks you if you have pets in the application form, and prohibits dogs in the lease and finds out only after signing the lease with you that you have one, he has grounds to end the lease with you no matter how nice your dog is because you are in breach of contract.

If a landlord sends you a lease with a clause which states that you need their written permission before getting a dog, and you move in with a dog without having obtained said permission beforehand, they'll not be inclined to grant it to you. They'll also have grounds to end the lease because you're in breach of contract.
If a landlord sends you an application form which asks if you have pets, and you lie and say you don't have a dog, and move in under the assumption that you'll automatically get permission, this could get you on the wrong foot of the landlord and have your lease terminated because you're in breach of contract.


Best to be honest and show your pet in the best light possible, it saves you and your pet a lot of heartache and hassle in the long run, even if it can significantly increase the duration of your search for a suitable flat.

eng_ch 22.12.2015 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swisspea (Post 2506666)
I would not rule out apartments that do not say 'pet-friendly'.

Actually, it's worth looking at any that don't say "pets not allowed".

As PapaGoose suggests, your biggest problem is search area - flats in Zurich city are always vastly oversubscribed (generalisation). Given your geographic focus, try looking at Birmensdorf, Affoltern am Albis, Mettmenstetten, anywhere down the silver coast - you often get to work by train in hardly any more time than from within the city on the trams.

Another thought is to look for someone who is looking for a Nachmieter. If that tenant already has a pet

Guest 22.12.2015 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eng_ch (Post 2506792)
Another thought is to look for someone who is looking for a Nachmieter. If that tenant already has a pet

Perhaps putting an ad up with a title like "Nachmieter gesucht?" (Are you looking for a replacement tenant?) and mentioning in the ad that a dog is in the picture could get the OP a place like this.

Medea Fleecestealer 22.12.2015 17:11

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I checked on immostreet.ch and homegate.ch for Zurich canton and came up with between 700 and 1,000 places which have pets allowed. So look at broadening your search area.


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