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Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows the regulations of having a workshop set up in the spare room of an apartment. My boyfriend wants to set one up and plans to have a milling machine, lathe, small cutting grinder and small blow torch as well as other tools.

Anyone have any idea or experience with this?
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

You want to set up a woodshop in a spare apartment room????
Besides the noise, dust, annoyance to neighbors etc there is also the safety aspect.

Don't know if it is legal or not but it is certainly one of the worse ideas I have come across.....
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

Have to agree with Anthony here, I'm afraid. You would need the approval of the rentor- and ensure insurance would cover the extra risks too. Would that be for a hobby or for professional/work?

And of course just depends on who lives around you, and the noise insulation of the apartment, etc, etc,. If you do this without approval and there is an incident- the insurance will probably not cover for damage to apartment and building- and you risk your lease being cancelled immediately if found out, or complaints made. Ouch.
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

If it's hobby stuff with occasional light noise then I don't see the problem.
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

That's a whole lot of equipment in a (bed)room! Very bad idea for all the reasons stated above!

If your boyfriend needs to set up a workshop, perhaps you can enquire with the agent/ owner of the apartment whether you could rent a workshop or hobby room. Many apartment blocks do have a hobby room, precisely to allow people to partake in some diy!
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

How big a milling machine, lathe, table-top, or bolt to the floor?

Bench grinder, or Dremel?

I presume that this is for metal work.

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Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows the regulations of having a workshop set up in the spare room of an apartment. My boyfriend wants to set one up and plans to have a milling machine, lathe, small cutting grinder and small blow torch as well as other tools.

Anyone have any idea or experience with this?
Many buildings especially older ones with poor sound insulation may prohibit it, thats really is a question for your agent/landlord. Our 1st apartment prohibited any form of business to be transacted on the premises without the owners permission.

I can see neighbours having issue around noise from grinders or milling machines as they are more for metal than wood, and smells of cutting oils and blow torches, and thats before you start on whether your liability insurance would cover it should there be an accident.... and would you really be happy with that in your home?

I'd speak to the agents as really they are the folks who would no what is permissible in your building.
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Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone knows the regulations of having a workshop set up in the spare room of an apartment. My boyfriend wants to set one up and plans to have a milling machine, lathe, small cutting grinder and small blow torch as well as other tools.

Anyone have any idea or experience with this?
As a hobby or for business?

Either way the noise would be pretty bad I imagine.
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

Thanks everyone for the input so far. He has a full time job so this would just be hobby stuff. The machines are small, he has worked out the measurements and they would fit and there would still be room for a double bed, full size wardrobe etc. (just to give an idea of space). It would only take up a wall on one side. He would only use the machinery during the day when noise is allowed.
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

I really think you are under estimating the dust, noise and the smell. (Wood or metal) And even though noise is "allowed" during the daytime there is limits to it. If you are banging and grinding away every single day when people come home from work......

at our old apartment block, some people rented the closed garage boxes. you could look into them sometimes and see some had set up small workbenches etc.
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As a hobby or for business?

Either way the noise would be pretty bad I imagine.
For a hobby, I don't think he'd be working on his stuff more than a few hours a week
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Thanks everyone for the input so far. He has a full time job so this would just be hobby stuff. The machines are small, he has worked out the measurements and they would fit and there would still be room for a double bed, full size wardrobe etc. (just to give an idea of space). It would only take up a wall on one side. He would only use the machinery during the day when noise is allowed.
Noise is allowed, but if you make loud, persistent and regular noise you could soon find yourselves very unpopular with your neighbours.

And you'd put a bed in there, and expect guest to sleep in it
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Noise is allowed, but if you make loud, persistent and regular noise you could soon find yourselves very unpopular with your neighbours.

And you'd put a bed in there, and expect guest to sleep in it

As stated, that was given as a guide to room size
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

You definitely cannot do this, you would be breaking the rules of your tenancy and could be thrown out immediately.

You need to rent a hobby room or store room. Outside of Zurich would be cheaper, http://www.homegate.ch/rent/storage-...bb=50&tab=list
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You definitely cannot do this, you would be breaking the rules of your tenancy and could be thrown out immediately.
Ah, so you've examined her lease?

Table-top machines are certainly allowed.

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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

Two paths that I see here, both start with reading your lease. Then you could maybe ask neighbours if they would mind, and maybe offer to let them use the room occasionally. Or you ask your landlord if he is OK with it.
I would not really be pleased with the room being close to my apartment but if I could use it and we agreed set usage times for anyone using it, it would be OK for me.
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Re: Workshop in apartment spare room: Allowed?

My lease certainly has nothing in it which states "no workshop equipment". If it's model building type equipment and the building is reasonably solid I reckon it would be ok. I don't see how it poses imminent danger to anyone.
I'd rather have the smell of napalm in the ... I mean cutting fluid than the neighbours' cigarettes, dope and dog shit.

You could set the stuff up on boards with vibration pads underneath and that should help. I guess it depends how noisy the existing location is.
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I'd rather have the smell of napalm in the ... I mean cutting fluid than the neighbours' cigarettes, dope and dog shit.
At work, we use ethanol as cutting fluid.

Ironically, the same substance that my dining room reeks of after tonight's fondue!

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At work, we use ethanol as cutting fluid.

Ironically, the same substance that my dining room reeks of after tonights fondue!

Tom

You should try kirschwasser...
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You should try kirschwasser...
Too sticky for a cutting fluid, though it will work in a rechaud (BTDT).

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