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White wall interior paints

Buying and refurbishing an old house, it is time to repaint. I am happy with painting most of the rooms white in the typical Swiss way.

I see the standard white used here is RAL 9010. This is the slightly broken off white.

There is also a purer white RAL 9016.

Anyone have an opinion on which of these to use. I'm likely to stick with 9010 as it might fit better to the character of an old house made new?
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Buying and refurbishing an old house, it is time to repaint. I am happy with painting most of the rooms white in the typical Swiss way.

I see the standard white used here is RAL 9010. This is the slightly broken off white.

There is also a purer white RAL 9016.

Anyone have an opinion on which of these to use. I'm likely to stick with 9010 as it might fit better to the character of an old house made new?

Get those small sample pots and paint a bit of each, then just choose.


I googled both.........somehow the 9010 looks 'whiter'.





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Old 27.04.2016, 11:21
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Re: White wall interior paints

Depends how you google. This is a bit more how it is...
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Re: White wall interior paints

RAL9010 = RGB 241, 236, 225
RAL9016 = RGB 241, 240, 234

http://rgb.to/ral/9016

Are you going to live in the place for a long time?
YES - paint it in whatever colour you want
NO - paint it in a colour that will be cheap/easy to match/replace/repaint
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Get those small sample pots and paint a bit of each, then just choose.


I googled both.........somehow the 9010 looks 'whiter'.

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Context matters when looking at colours: Here A and B are the same colour!
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Re: White wall interior paints

We have a lot of wood in our house and opted for the 9010.

We used paint from Sto. If you switch manufacturers the colour may not be the same.
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Old 27.04.2016, 14:32
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Re: White wall interior paints

In a simple answer - none...

Do take some time to go through other options. Sometimes a totally different tone makes a room spring to life. I've used very dark grey, bright red, coffee colour, my all time favorite grey, and once even green

Yes, white is easier because it does not clash with anything. It is also more difficult to keep (the more you go into the blue tone white the worse, even if that's pretty much the nicer tones of white).

Maybe because the school of Architecture that brought me up uses and abuses the white, I tend to do the exact opposite and search for colour. Really do give it a try. Maybe you'll be surprised

If you really are fix with the 9010 versus 9016 - I hate the 9010 because it tends to the yellow tone. It's, however, easier to keep than the 9016. The 9016 makes rooms "cooler" due to the slight bluish pigment.

Think of the room as a whole - what is the colour of the window frames? Which decoration will you bring inside? Main colours? All this should have an influence on your choice (if you'll be living here, that is. If it's to rent, both whites are an ok choice...)
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Re: White wall interior paints

I'll be living there. I am thinking about adding a different colour to a wall or two, but the majority will stay white.

My painter recommended 9010 as it is the easiest to manage. To be honest I did not take enough time to check it against other options but now I have a muster of 9010 and when I stick it on the wall next to what I think is 9016 it does look rather less impressive on the same wall.

I also tend to prefer cooler whites in general, in terms of lightbulbs and so.

On the other hand, I'm not sure that is a fair comparison because in such a test brighter is likely to look better, and it could well be that 9010 is fine in isolation and looks good in an older style house that has been modernised.

It's a tough choice to be honest.
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Re: White wall interior paints

We had the 9016 in a previous home that was very modern with lots of grey, white, glass, concrete, and metal. It worked fine except every big of dirt shows up.

Our current home is filled with lots of wood and earth tones and I just didn't see the bright white working, not with the floors, or windows, or wood ceilings. We bought an older home and we did not rip out everything.

We used a very experienced painter and I relied in his expertise and advice.

The top floor of our house has exposed wood beams, and a wood ceiling and here we painted 9016. We wanted it to be bright and we did the complete renovation including new flooring.

I love bringing colour into a room but I prefer to do this with accessories. It is easier to change those than paint over a dark wall.
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Buying and refurbishing an old house, it is time to repaint. I am happy with painting most of the rooms white in the typical Swiss way.

I see the standard white used here is RAL 9010. This is the slightly broken off white.

There is also a purer white RAL 9016.

Anyone have an opinion on which of these to use. I'm likely to stick with 9010 as it might fit better to the character of an old house made new?
I live very happily with RAL9010 Aqua Isolierfarbe. Had it done 3 years ago, looks like day1 ...... even though I smoke
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Re: White wall interior paints

Thanks for your always good advice. I think the tipping point is that our current apartment (before we move to the new place) is not that modern but I compared our white there to 9010 and honestly 9010 just looks a bit too yellow for my liking. Luckily I could change to 9016, I think it suits me better, and will also fit with our new kitchen and my preference for cooler lighting temperatures over warmer ones.

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We had the 9016 in a previous home that was very modern with lots of grey, white, glass, concrete, and metal. It worked fine except every big of dirt shows up.

Our current home is filled with lots of wood and earth tones and I just didn't see the bright white working, not with the floors, or windows, or wood ceilings. We bought an older home and we did not rip out everything.

We used a very experienced painter and I relied in his expertise and advice.

The top floor of our house has exposed wood beams, and a wood ceiling and here we painted 9016. We wanted it to be bright and we did the complete renovation including new flooring.

I love bringing colour into a room but I prefer to do this with accessories. It is easier to change those than paint over a dark wall.
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Re: White wall interior paints

Hi it depend how your house it look like and how big the walls are .
SO far from my experience the better colour for you it will be 9016 .

It look better then 9010,the difference is really small but if you spend money to paint better get otherwise there will be no big difference .

And when you getting a paint don't use all this commercial Bauhaus ,coop or micros .
Better go to another professional paint supplier !!! the paint there is on the same price and the quality is much better and you can be sure if you want to do this in the future they will have them again on the same quality .
Check CAPORAL !!!
I'm working only with then and so far I'm really happy with the quality .
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info@proproperty.ch

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We went for 9016, I'm quite sure I am happier with this than I would have been with 9010
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Re: White wall interior paints

I am painting the walls of the living room today - all going great, looks fab - but the ceilings really need attention. Is there a different paint type for ceilings as opposed to the bog standard emulsion I am using on the walls? Or can I just use the same emulsion/dispersion water-content paint?

Does anyone know of a good wood paint that does not stink to high heaven? I don't like the idea of filling the house with fumes from oil based paint with the kids 'n' all.. just wondering if any of you know of a product more eco friendly and without the strong fumes?
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I am painting the walls of the living room today - all going great, looks fab - but the ceilings really need attention. Is there a different paint type for ceilings as opposed to the bog standard emulsion I am using on the walls? Or can I just use the same emulsion/dispersion water-content paint?

Does anyone know of a good wood paint that does not stink to high heaven? I don't like the idea of filling the house with fumes from oil based paint with the kids 'n' all.. just wondering if any of you know of a product more eco friendly and without the strong fumes?
Swisstree,

Possibly, see:
painting the walls inside the house

If the house/apt is your own, and purchased recently, you may have a binder which includes fairly detailed information about which paint was used where.

Most of the building centers carry a line of water based paint which is not as bad as Oil and solvent based paints. These are usually semigloss although gloss is sometimes also to be found, and pretty good.

How old and what gloss level is the wood stuff you are trying to paint over. Finishing is actually a misnomer, the term should be "preparing" as that is what takes most of the work.
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Possibly, see:
painting the walls inside the house

If the house/apt is your own, and purchased recently, you may have a binder which includes fairly detailed information about which paint was used where.

Most of the building centers carry a line of water based paint which is not as bad as Oil and solvent based paints. These are usually semigloss although gloss is sometimes also to be found, and pretty good.

How old and what gloss level is the wood stuff you are trying to paint over. Finishing is actually a misnomer, the term should be "preparing" as that is what takes most of the work.
The place is ours and it's time to paint complete rooms as opposed to patchwork/odd wall painting jobs we have done over the last couple of years. I am using the softer toned white RAL 9016.

The wood work will need to be sanded down as the old paint is flaking off in certain corners, so yes agree re the prep' being the tougher and longer part of the work.
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If you read the book "Fifty Shades of Grey" you will know which is the best choice for you.
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If you read the book "Fifty Shades of Grey" you will know which is the best choice for you.
What are you on about, Sbrinz? You have got the wrong thread - this is about paint and its composition; the colors and sex thread is somewhere else..

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The place is ours and it's time to paint complete rooms as opposed to patchwork/odd wall painting jobs we have done over the last couple of years. I am using the softer toned white RAL 9016.

The wood work will need to be sanded down as the old paint is flaking off in certain corners, so yes agree re the prep' being the tougher and longer part of the work.
Can you post a couple of pics where it is flaking? Sometimes this is just poor prepwork on the original finishing, sometimes it is because a subsequent layer was applied without proper prepwork.

Even if it doesn't look like there is any mold in the wood, it is still a good idea to include an antifungal wash, and a spot prime of the exposed wood with antifungal paint.

If there is evidence of mold it is sometimes due to a breakdown in the exterior paint, or even rising damp. This needs investigation and rectification as it will just keep coming back.

Not much help for fiddly bits, but for large flat surfaces like skirting boards, buy a random orbital sander.

I have one of those ion generator aircleaners which I got at a Brockenhaus. I plug this in while the paint is being applied and drying, I believe that it makes a difference to the smell, while allowing you to leave the windows closed to keep flies and mozzies off the paint. Once the paint has flashed off (I usually wait either the recoat time or half the recommended drying time) I then open the windows, as the bugs don't really stick anymore.

Don't forget to have fun. I can't think of any concrete suggestions as to how to actually do this while sanding, but nonetheless, it is important.
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The wood work will need to be sanded down as the old paint is flaking off in certain corners, so yes agree re the prep' being the tougher and longer part of the work.


The prep is the tough part, but important. I sanded a wood ceiling but then had a painter paint it. He sprayed it. I used a Black and Decker sander which for me was the easiest to work with. I am not sure the paint I used would be useful for you as the ceiling is in the wintergarden which is not heated.
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