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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

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First link from google http://www.salamanderpumps.co.uk/pumps/home-boost/

The pump only runs when the water is running, the only time I ever heard it was after flushing the toilet, the pump being on the roof 60cm above the upstairs bathroom. If your on the roof you can hear it, it's no louder than the pump of a washing machine, probably quieter. Running a bath is much louder than the pump.
I have one in the flat too, it increases the water pressure from a dribble to a trickle with intermediate bursts of deluge.
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

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The SO found the Hausmeister, and he came to investigate. He agreed that the water pressure was indeed too low, but there's nothing he can do about it.

He said we need to talk to the rental company for further steps.


Doesn't sound like it's going to be an easy fix.


Now the great misery of writing to the Rental company seeing that I can't really write well in German
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Old 24.05.2016, 18:47
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

In London we have the terrible shower pressure problem, where the head of water is only about 2 meters.

A plumber informed me there exist shower hoses with wider internal diameters, to increase the water flow. I managed to find one, and it did indeed help, and we achieved about 20% more water out of the shower head.

Coincidentally I was in Bauhaus near Bern last week looking for such a hose, and I didn't find one. I bought one, but it wasn't correct, & next time I will ask the shop worker.

So maybe take your hose to the builder's shop and ask them? The standard hoses have a narrow rubber tube inside the outer silver tube, and this restricts the flow as it is much smaller, about the width of a pencil, than the 9 or 10 mm diameter at the hole in the washer.

Is there adequate water running into the bath, or into the kitchen sink? If yes, then the wider hose diameter might be the answer.
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

In the shower head there is normally a non return valve, which is there to keep a pressure in the rubber hose and to stop the head dripping. These valves tend to clog up with chalk from the water. This valve is in the shower head, where it is screwed to the hose.
Have you tried it without the shower head?
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Now the great misery of writing to the Rental company seeing that I can't really write well in German
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

We had a similar issue and contacted our Hausmeister - it was actually a leaking pipe.
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

Late update----the rental company sent their guys, who cleared out the pipes a bunch---pressure is better. Then a plumber who installed a different shower head for a good spray. Seems acceptable (this all happened back in May).
We just received (from the rental agency) the bill for labour and parts costs for the work.
I don't feel like this is our responsibility to pay---any advice on how to approach this, without having to take costly legal avenues?
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Old 09.03.2017, 12:43
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Late update----the rental company sent their guys, who cleared out the pipes a bunch---pressure is better. Then a plumber who installed a different shower head for a good spray. Seems acceptable (this all happened back in May).
We just received (from the rental agency) the bill for labour and parts costs for the work.
I don't feel like this is our responsibility to pay---any advice on how to approach this, without having to take costly legal avenues?


IŽd say this definitely is not "small repairs" that should be paid by the renter. Are you a member of Mieterverband/Asloca? Check with them
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

Thanks for the input. We are not members--but it looks like joining would be slightly cheaper than the bill we have--and perhaps useful in the future.
Still a cost that I don't want to pay
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

I think Mieterverband is CHF 102
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

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Late update----the rental company sent their guys, who cleared out the pipes a bunch---pressure is better. Then a plumber who installed a different shower head for a good spray. Seems acceptable (this all happened back in May).
We just received (from the rental agency) the bill for labour and parts costs for the work.
I don't feel like this is our responsibility to pay---any advice on how to approach this, without having to take costly legal avenues?
Antything which can not be done by the renter is on the landlord.
Anything which can be done by renter without special expertise and is bellow approx CHF 150 is on the tenant.

My view: In your case cleaning the pipes is on the landlord and installing the shower head is on yours.
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

Isn't there also a period where issues found after move-in, that would not be obvious from an inspection, can be reported and the responsibility of the landlord?
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Old 09.03.2017, 14:42
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Antything which can not be done by the renter is on the landlord.
Anything which can be done by renter without special expertise and is bellow approx CHF 150 is on the tenant.

My view: In your case cleaning the pipes is on the landlord and installing the shower head is on yours.
Agreed. This is where it becomes a bit complicated.

The bill is for the new shower head and the costs to install it (well over 100 francs).
Our issue was with the water pressure, the flat came with an expensive type 'rainstyle' shower head.

The cleaning of the pipes helped the pressure, but was still not enough for the installed shower head that came with the flat.
Installation of the cheaper smaller shower head brought the pressure up to acceptable standard. The pressure is still not high enough for the original.
So we could have bought and installed the shower head ourselves, but the rental company took those steps on their own to remedy an 'unknown' water pressure issue.

In theory they could have suggested we replace the nice shower head which came with the flat, and we would have covered the charge.
Does it sound like we have a case?


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Isn't there also a period where issues found after move-in, that would not be obvious from an inspection, can be reported and the responsibility of the landlord?

It was brought to the attention of the rental company 2 months after moving in (may), they didn't take action until almost February.
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Re: Low water pressure in Flat

From the Homegate site:

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Defects which are not noticed during the handover should be reported to the landlord, depending on the rental contract, from 10 to 30 days after taking over the apartment, doing so in writing using a registered letter.
https://www.homegate.ch/rent/advisor...aw/taking-over

So check the contract but it looks like you may be out of luck due to the time delay on reporting it.
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Installation of the cheaper smaller shower head brought the pressure up to acceptable standard. The pressure is still not high enough for the original.
So we could have bought and installed the shower head ourselves, but the rental company took those steps on their own to remedy an 'unknown' water pressure issue.

In theory they could have suggested we replace the nice shower head which came with the flat, and we would have covered the charge.
Does it sound like we have a case?

It was brought to the attention of the rental company 2 months after moving in (may), they didn't take action until almost February.
Was this a fixed installed one Example http://www.lightinthebox.com/de/Plat...-_p195700.html
or one screwed on a standard shower hose?

If it is the later I see the problem solely on you. Sorry. The head was not faulty, but was just not the type of your likening. You could have changed the head easily yourself. A cheap head starts at CHF 15 something. Changing such a shower head is no rocket science and like changing toilet seat, a too dim light bulb or curtains. I am actually kind of surprised that you did not do it yourself much earlier.

For the pipes itself, even if it was 2 months after you moved in, it is still the landlords problem.
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Was this a fixed installed one Example http://www.lightinthebox.com/de/Plat...-_p195700.html
or one screwed on a standard shower hose?

If it is the later I see the problem solely on you. Sorry. The head was not faulty, but was just not the type of your likening. You could have changed the head easily yourself. A cheap head starts at CHF 15 something. Changing such a shower head is no rocket science and like changing toilet seat, a too dim light bulb or curtains. I am actually kind of surprised that you did not do it yourself much earlier.

For the pipes itself, even if it was 2 months after you moved in, it is still the landlords problem.
Thanks for the input---yeah, we could have easily changed it ourselves. And true, it is not down to our liking, we just feel that for a 'high-end' expensive flat in Zurich, the high end appliances installed should work properly for the new build.
Just the idea, that one visits an apartment, it has nice furnishings, but when moving in, they don't work, so they need to be replaced with cheaper ones because of the building design.
Our initial complaint was that the shower didn't work because the pressure didn't hold the shower valve in place---if they told us that we need to buy a new shower head so the valve works---it would be another story. (but we wouldn't be too pleased either for the reasons above).
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