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L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

Hello All,
I am from India, I got Work permit in Vaud canton and moved to Swiss on 15-Jun.Currently I have applied for Residence permit in Nyon.
I am not able to find any apatments/house in Nyon or in Vaud canton. I have soome offers in geenva and i have still not received my residence permit in Nyon.
can I move my Nyon to Geneva ,is there any process or will i have any impact on my current residence permit.
Also, my deppendt have applied for the Family reunification.Is there any impact if i change from Nyon to Geneva.


Thanks for your support.


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Old 08.07.2016, 10:27
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

From what I learned here: it is not allowed to simply go to another Kanton to live. You normally have to live in the same Kanton as you work. If you want to live in another Kanton, you need to get approval to do so from both Kantons first.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

No, you can't, not easily anyway. Because your permit is tied to your employer you're expected to live in the same canton that your workplace is based in.

"Art. 36 Place of residence

Persons with a short stay permit, a residence or a permanent residence permit are free to choose their place of residence within the canton that granted the permit.

Art. 37 Change of the place of residence to another canton

1 Persons with a short stay permit or a residence permit who would like to relocate their place of residence to another canton must apply for the appropriate permit from the new canton beforehand."

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...232/index.html

Where you live affects who gets your taxes so, having been kind enough to grant you a permit to live in Vaud, they'd like to have you show your appreciation by doing just that. Plus you've already applied there.

I can't believe you can't find any place in canton Vaud. What on earth are you looking for? What's your budget? What websites have you tried? Look at these.

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

It is more difficult to find some place with an L permit unfortunately, but it can be done.

And yes, if you try and change cantons it will probably affect your dependent's applications as I suspect they'd need to make a new one plus they'd have to wait until you get your new permit/accommodation sorted out before they could join you. It would take anything from a few weeks to a few months to get all the permit permissions agreed between the two cantons, although Geneva and Vaud probably do this fairly often.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

It can be done but not sure if they'd bother for an L permit.
I had the work permit from SZ where I've actually never set my foot and came to live in GE - went to the OCP with the work permit and registered, then GE asked the other canton for the agreement and after some 6 weeks they worked it out.
Overall, some 3 months passed until I had the (GE-issued) B permit in my hand but I only had to fill one form and send a couple of emails for it to happen.
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Yeah, rules are slightly different for B permit holders regarding moving cantons too.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

Thanks for the suggestion.


As you mentioned, it is diificult to get rent for L1.I have searched all websites you mentioned, applied for rental through agencies but no luck.


It will be easy for me to get sub let that found in Geneva. If i get the same in Vaud, I will be happru to live in Vaud. I am also looking for the same.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

Well, bear in mind that your accommodation has to meet "Swiss standards". For a couple that's going to mean a studio at least, if you have a very young child 1 one bedroom place, if older child/children you'll need at least 2 bedrooms. If you're thinking of just renting a room with shared kitchen/bath facilites that may not be acceptable for the family reunification.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

You can change with no problems. I had my permit for Bern and then moved to Fribourg. I am not sure if this is canton dependent.

You will have to de-register first that at your current canton and then announce your arrival with second canton (I think with in 15 days or so).

You will be asked to share few documents like bad pay master, rental contract at second canton and few more (sorry, I don't remember all of them). You will have to write a letter explaining why you are moving/changing cantons and submit it along with other documents.

It is always better to check in person in both the canton offices before you sign your rental contract in other canton.

Think twice before you move. Yes, it is a bit difficult to find apartments but not impossible. Search for serviced apartments for time being till you get apartments.

My 2nd year L followed by a B was processed after my move and that too had no problems. I got my permits approved. I am not sure if this move resets your counter for permit C.

Good luck with your search.

My 2 cents, Write a covering letter and submit it with the application form while applying. I hope you are submitting bad pay master and salary statements as well along with application form.

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You can change with no problems. I had my permit for Bern and then moved to Fribourg. I am not sure if this is canton dependent.


Are you non EU as well?
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Yes, from non EU.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

I looked into this for moving from Zurich to Aargau canton. For non-EU L permits you have to get permission from the canton you're leaving and the one you're moving to.

In Zurich there is a form to fill out to ask for permission. For Aargau there is no form, but I would have to write a letter explaining why I want to move with a copy of my current permit, employment contract, etc.. You have to give a reason to move, and I was told finding a cheaper apartment would not be a good reason to give. I also heard stories about Zurich not approving non-EU work permits because the person was living in a different canton and Zurich would not get the taxes. You can get approval ahead of time and then have some months where you would be allowed to choose to make the move (or stay.)

I decided not to deal with the process in the end and stayed put.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

As far as I know, there is no stick to place of residence in case of L-permit. Just normal procedure of de-register and register in new canton.
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

Actually the Foreign Nationals Act is pretty clear.

"Les titulaires d’une autorisation de courte durée n’ont pas le droit de changer de canton."

"Holders of a short-term authorization do not have the right to change canton."

https://www.sem.admin.ch/content/dam...ngen-aug-f.pdf
Section 3.1.8.2.1 (page 65)
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

I can confirm that during the periof of having L permit we couldnt change canton (had to stay in ZH). L is quite limiting and you certainly cant just deregister and go wherever.
You can call Migrationsamt and i expect you will get the same answer
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Re: L VISA- Moving Residence from one Canton to another canton

Just to be clear and to know I am reading this post correctly,

As a B permit holder I can switch cantons and do not have to ask to do so before hand as long as I am employed?

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Just to be clear and to know I am reading this post correctly,

As a B permit holder I can switch cantons and do not have to ask to do so before hand as long as I am employed?

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As a non-EU national, no.

"Art. 37 Change of the place of residence to another canton

1 Persons with a short stay permit or a residence permit who would like to relocate their place of residence to another canton must apply for the appropriate permit from the new canton beforehand.

2 Persons with a residence permit are entitled to move to another canton provided they are not unemployed and there are no grounds for revocation in terms of Article 62."

You must ask the canton first if you can move as they have to issue you with a new permit.
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