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Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

So, I arrived here on Sunday and started working on Monday. So far I only got my monthly pass for the train.
On Thursday I should go and apply for residence permit. As I am informed, they do not give residence permit on the spot, but I will have to wait a few weeks?

While I wait for it, can I start applying to rent an apartment? (my current place is only temporary). Is residence permit requested when applying?

Also, can I open bank account (to recive my salary) without residence permit?
And can I sign up for a health insurance without residence permit? This is not as urgent for me as bank account or as applying for apartments.

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Old 26.07.2016, 19:26
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

Please search and read the Forum. Many thousands have been here before you, and published their sorry tales.

Alternatively read the book, https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...d%2Caps%2C2361

- buy a recent version, year 2015

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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

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Yes, you'll have to wait a few weeks to get your permit.

No, but you'll need a rental agreement to be able to get a permit, even if it's just for your temp accommodation.

No and no. You might get a piece of paper to say you've applied for your permit and that might be acceptable for a bank, but it depends on the bank.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

I do have rental agreement for the current place. Sorry, I wasn't clear about this part.

is it NO for the "can I start applying to rent an apartment?" or for the "Is residence permit requested when applying?"?
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

No for the residence permit. You can rent without having a permit, but you can't get a permit without having a rental agreement.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

understood. thank you very much!
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

When you register and they ask about your religion, think carefully before answering. There's a Church tax here but they're not polite enough to inform you when inquiring. It's obligatory until you jump through hoops to get out, so be warned.

Welcome to Switzerland.
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Thanks. I have no religion anyhow.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

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No for the residence permit. You can rent without having a permit, but you can't get a permit without having a rental agreement.
We never had to show our rental agreement to get our permits. We just told the commune what our address would be.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

my employer gave me the list of what I need for residence permit:
1. passport
2. employee contract
3. rental contract
4. ID picture in color
5. 120 CHF
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

I guess it depends on a few things.. But my employer gave my office address when they requested my initial permit (i was living in one of their apartments) , with the letter of request and my work contract I could open a bank account, which also had my office address .. When i moved 3 months later, to another canton, I still didn't have my permit. But it was no drama, without the actual permit i could still do anything - health insurance, bank, car, apartment etc etc.
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So, I arrived here on Sunday and started working on Monday. So far I only got my monthly pass for the train.
We arrived last year on Sunday, 8th November.

Have you applied for your Halbtax Karte? That was the first thing we did on Monday morning, and got extra passport photos whilst we there for the other applications you need to make.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-and...ravelcard.html

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On Thursday I should go and apply for residence permit. As I am informed, they do not give residence permit on the spot, but I will have to wait a few weeks?
That was the very second thing we did on the Monday morning. I got my L Permit 4 weeks later andmy OH got his after 6 weeks, even though he's the wage earner.

We were staying at a hotel for the first 13 nights, and a short stay apartment for 10 nights when we first arrived. We arranged with the hotel reception manager to use the hotel's address for our residence permit application forms. The Gemeinde official who processed our application, called the hotel to confirm this during our application interview.

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While I wait for it, can I start applying to rent an apartment? (my current place is only temporary). Is residence permit requested when applying?
We started looking online, back in the UK, before the job offer was made, so I had a short list of 6 apartments when we arrived.

The one we chose (fell in love with) only had a 4mth let available. We were accepted, and moved in, before either of us had received our residence permits, and mainly based upon my partner's work contract.

It largely depends on the landlord on the whole. For our second move, we viewed 22 apartments, applied for 12 of them and were turned down for the first 7. Then my partner received his B permit and we were accepted for the last 5 apartments.


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Also, can I open bank account (to recive my salary) without residence permit?
Yes.

That was the third thing we did on the first Monday.

We applied for CS bank accounts. The application process took the best part of an hour, but we were immediately accepted (possibly because my OH is contracted to them).

We used passports, driving licences, hotel booking confirmation, residence permit applications, etc, as ID.


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And can I sign up for a health insurance without residence permit? This is not as urgent for me as bank account or as applying for apartments.

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Yes.

I know ours began before my partner received his permit. I'd also raise that question with your employer first of all, in case they have any preferential rates with the main suppliers.


I hope this helps a little.
I've been told our course of events isn't usual, but my OH had lived in Switzerland before, so he knew the processes and we got the majority of things sorted on Day 1. My head was in a spin by Monday night and much vodka was drunk to redress the balance.


Good luck Anchie and welcome.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

Than you Blueangel, this is very helpfull information.
I should have agreed with my employer to start work on Tuesday, so I could get all this done like you, on Monday... never thought of that. :-)

Just one more question for you - how and when did you get the Betreibungsauszug? I guess on Monday as well. :-) Did you ask for it when applying for residence permit? Thanks!
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Old 27.07.2016, 13:52
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I should have agreed with my employer to start work on Tuesday, so I could get all this done like you, on Monday... never thought of that. :-)

Just one more question for you - how and when did you get the Betreibungsauszug? I guess on Monday as well. :-) Did you ask for it when applying for residence permit? Thanks!
My OH was offered Monday or Wednesday as his start date and chose the latter.


We didn't have Betreibungs at all for the first apartment, as we'd just arrived in the country and the landlord knew they would be blank. Because it was a short let, and the deposit was 4 mths rent (it's usually 3 or 4 mths), it essentially removed the need for a credit check.


For the second move, we got the Betreibungs in February and they were requested by every landlord we applied to.


One tip, if you're completely new to the country, it may be worth doing an advanced search on comparis for the word 'befristete'. This will show the temorary lets available, and there are some real bargains to be had. I honestly don't regret taking a temporary lease because it gave us the chance to live in a fantastic apartment with views directly over the lake for CHF 1620p.m. It also gave us a breathing space to see which areas of the city we prefered in the longer term, and gave a Swiss landlord's reference and credit record for when we made the next move.

As you already have a tenancy agreement, you're already on the right track.
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Re: Just moved to Switzerland - few questions

You should have gone and applied for your residence permit before starting work. You can work before you physically have it on your hand, but you must apply before you start work... be prepared for a slapped wrist
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My OH was offered Monday or Wednesday as his start date and chose the latter.


We didn't have Betreibungs at all for the first apartment, as we'd just arrived in the country and the landlord knew they would be blank. Because it was a short let, and the deposit was 4 mths rent (it's usually 3 or 4 mths), it essentially removed the need for a credit check.


For the second move, we got the Betreibungs in February and they were requested by every landlord we applied to.


One tip, if you're completely new to the country, it may be worth doing an advanced search on comparis for the word 'befristete'. This will show the temorary lets available, and there are some real bargains to be had. I honestly don't regret taking a temporary lease because it gave us the chance to live in a fantastic apartment with views directly over the lake for CHF 1620p.m. It also gave us a breathing space to see which areas of the city we prefered in the longer term, and gave a Swiss landlord's reference and credit record for when we made the next move.

As you already have a tenancy agreement, you're already on the right track.
I will think about those temporary places, but I would need them to be furnished. I cannot furnish one place to move everything in few months to a new one... no car, by myself... :-(

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You should have gone and applied for your residence permit before starting work. You can work before you physically have it on your hand, but you must apply before you start work... be prepared for a slapped wrist
My employer gave me instructions in writing that I need to apply for residence permit 8 days after my arrival. Also, he did not wanted me to start working before the work permit.

Anyways, went this morning to get residence permit. They just asked me to bring them my health insurance papers once I have them. The permit should be done in 2 weeks - so they said.

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