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Old 18.08.2016, 14:18
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When you have 3.3 bio... you stand out.. Michael Shumacher.. Jhony Hallyday... James Blunt... dont need to stand out. But when you look for a flat even whit your 135k/year you need to stand out.
The guy allready did the quiet sheep... and just send the application.. and result... just negative answers... maybe a proactive attitude can pay...
I will try .. nothing to loose
Today Only makes a valid point, but the example isn't a good one.

What you want is to stand above the rest of the applicants, without standing out too much.

If you write "We are from Texas and love mechanical bull riding, we look forward to introducing our new neighbors to this fascinating hobby. We are having our bull converted to 220V for this reason." then, well, you've probably got a long road ahead of you.
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Old 18.08.2016, 14:26
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Switzerland isn't like this, Discretion and conservative are words used to describe the Swiss, they don't want people who stand out, in their opinion it means unnecessary confrontation.

Just to give you a very quick example of the Swiss way, albeit the guy is Swedish, he lived here a long time, Ingvar Kampred lived in Epalinges (a middle class suburb of Lausanne) he drove a 17 year old Volvo estate car and lived in a Chf 1.2mio house



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Switzerland isn't like this, Discretion and conservative are words used to describe the Swiss, they don't want people who stand out, in their opinion it means unnecessary confrontation.

Just to give you a very quick example of the Swiss way, albeit the guy is Swedish, he lived here a long time, Ingvar Kampred lived in Epalinges (a middle class suburb of Lausanne) he drove a 17 year old Volvo estate car and lived in a Chf 1.2mio house



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would he have a lockable gas cap for a V70?
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It is definitely not a come first - get first behaviour in Switzerland. Yes, they pick and choose whoever they think fits best most of the time
It's a bit of both. They do often get 150+ and if you think they read all of them and compcare them carefully.... well

For a chance, you have to be a) a good fit and b) in the first 20-30 profiles they read. I have NEVER been offered a flat if I did not apply imediately after the first viewing.
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Old 18.08.2016, 17:49
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But he never contributed much to the EF.

Yes he did ! The "For Sale" adds are full of Ikea crap for sale

Without him, there would only be a few old boring car threads with prices designed to rook unsuspecting punters.

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Old 18.08.2016, 18:07
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Re: How do landlords choose tenants?

If only someone else had asked this before and saved you the hassle...

How do rental agencies select tenants?

What criteria do landlords use to pick tenants
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No, the point is not that you meet with all present tenants, but rather you be aware of the (sad) fact that if your name ends in "ic", for example, and all of the post boxes show names like Zgraggen, Hürlimann, Meier, Huber etc. and if you also notice a prevalence of SVP stickers then even if you get the ok from the landlord, this might not be an ideal place for you to seek happiness.

It is something to be aware of.

SVP stickers are everywhere, just so you know. I'm not sure what this well-meant advice is supposed to mean: someone with a non-Swiss name should seek happiness in a building with only or predominantly foreign names on the post boxes?
C'mon folks, it's not that bad... Although Zürich city has a few areas I wouldn't like to live, indeed, but frankly the names only don't say much. For instance, my "Italian" neighbours aren't Italians for a few/couple generations...I guess. :-)
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SVP stickers are everywhere, just so you know. I'm not sure what this well-meant advice is supposed to mean: someone with a non-Swiss name should seek happiness in a building with only or predominantly foreign names on the post boxes?
C'mon folks, it's not that bad... Although Zürich city has a few areas I wouldn't like to live, indeed, but frankly the names only don't say much. For instance, my "Italian" neighbours aren't Italians for a few/couple generations...I guess. :-)
Hmm, Mr.Waugh, who would have thought.
I wasn't claiming that it is universally the case, but you would agree that it does happen. Usually the other way round though, I know a few Swiss who wouldn't look at an apartment if they found mostly non Swiss names when they went to look. I have also helped a few ETH families looking for apartments and was able to say "Probably ain't gonna happen" ahead of time.

It happens, and it is something to be aware of. Part of the process of finding your way around here is to learn to be aware of a great range of cues which may be new to you. If I say pay attention to "X" it might mean "Y" I am not saying "X" means "Y".
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Re: How do landlords choose tenants?

You're already way ahead if you go there and look at a place and other tenants before you rent it. We had here plenty of people who after signing a contract wanted to install a washing machine or complained about conditions. It's simply too late.


The very basic is to do your homework before signing. Then the names of people can be misleading too: Even a guy with a Swiss name like Hürlimann can be a pimp, a drug addict and a still have his SVP sticker
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Old 19.08.2016, 18:39
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Re: How do landlords choose tenants?

Generalisation is never very good nor in any way exact, however it can give you some ideas which you could maybe expand without too much difficulty to form a basic opinion.
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Write a letter about the specifics of the flat and why you and it are a perfect match (e.g. For my first I said it was perfect because there was a child next door the same age as mine, and that showed that a) I knew the flat, and b) I was going to be a good neighbour).
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Re: How do landlords choose tenants?

Interesting posts. There has been a mention of pets, and I wanted to echo that as I believe it's the reason we were rejected 5 times (we have a cat). To be fair, if I put myself in the landlord's shoes and had the option of a tenant with no cat, I would probably choose them to reduce the likelihood of damage to my investment. We found a great place in the end though
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Interesting posts. There has been a mention of pets, and I wanted to echo that as I believe it's the reason we were rejected 5 times (we have a cat). To be fair, if I put myself in the landlord's shoes and had the option of a tenant with no cat, I would probably choose them to reduce the likelihood of damage to my investment. We found a great place in the end though
Mentioning that your cat never left any damage behind in past flats (your past landlords should be able to back this up, obviously), that you have liability insurance which covers damages caused by pets, that your cats are indoor cats (if this indeed is the case) and that you are willing to sign something like the appendix to rental contracts for residential properties regarding pets from IEMT if the agency/landlord requests it, could make or break the deal to get a cat-friendly flat.

See here for further info:
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How to convince my landlord to allow a cat

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