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Old 22.08.2016, 14:47
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What to expect from a bunker check?

So this Friday, some local officials from the geminder bunker team or what ever are coming to perform a bunker check in an allotted time slot of 10 til 12.

Any one have a idea how these work? Do they expect me to lock my self in and start the airfilter whilst they simulate world war 3 outside? Do I have to unwrap any of the loos or beds that are available inside?

And on a more serious note, how much of my stuff can I leave in there (currently a few pieces of furniture - pieces as in the furniture is in pieces )

Thanks for tips from any "survivors" out there

ps no there is no food in my bunker so I would not expect to last long
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So this Friday, some local officials from the geminder bunker team or what ever are coming to perform a bunker check in an allotted time slot of 10 til 12.

Any one have a idea how these work? Do they expect me to lock my self in and start the airfilter whilst they simulate world war 3 outside? Do I have to unwrap any of the loos or beds that are available inside?

And on a more serious note, how much of my stuff can I leave in there (currently a few pieces of furniture - pieces as in the furniture is in pieces )

Thanks for tips from any "survivors" out there

ps no there is no food in my bunker so I would not expect to last long
Didn't they send an info sheet?

All they do is check that the equipment is present and that it works. You don't have to do any testing or simulation, all you have to do is make sure that they can get to all the technical equipment and close any doors or covers and let them into the space.

IIRC some of them have an outlet for running the fan in the airfilter. Not such a big deal to leave a freezer unplugged for an hour or two, but if you have a server or such plugged in there you may want to perform a shutdown ahead of time.
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Old 22.08.2016, 15:01
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Re: What to expect from a bunker check?

In the worst, yours will not be the only one which fails
http://www.solothurnerzeitung.ch/sol...-auf-126381948

If you want to be a good Ausländer (maybe that is suspicious as well )

-All doors must be easely closeable and functionalbe.
-Access to the ventilation unit. Function will be checked once all dors are closed.
-Stuff which has been installed must be easely removable (No brickwalls). If special tools and instructions are needed they must be in the room.

Appart from that, there is not much you can do pre-check.

Here the canton Aaragu Check List
https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aarga...igentuemer.pdf
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Re: What to expect from a bunker check?

This Ct. Aargau info sheet "Vorbereitung auf die periodische Schutzraumkontrolle" describes how to prepare for an inspection of the shelter (German):

http://www.zso-rero.ch/images/docume...ung_PSK_12.pdf
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Old 22.08.2016, 15:55
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Didn't they send an info sheet?
Yes.. some months ago.. I have no idea where it now resides though, if it was not filled under r for recycling..

(t'was my OH supposed to be on "bunker check duty" but has decided to bugger off to the mountains earlier than planned because of "weather", or could have been "whatever", and I have to perform the said inspection... and then bugger off too. )
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Re: What to expect from a bunker check?

Well that was all a bit of an anti climax...

2 millennials show up dressed in uniforms out of a computer game, they locked them self in the bunker for a few minutes with the air filter on... and that was it, for the next five years! I have my certificate to prove it.

I wonder if they even know about MAD
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Re: What to expect from a bunker check?

What provision is there for apartment buildings that don't have a bunker? Our last place did, but out current place was built in 1912.
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I wonder if they even know about MAD
I have one of those bunkers. It doesn't look like it is a place to live in, rather a way of getting people in their crypts in the event of a nuclear attack. The Swiss are so efficient, aren't they?
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What provision is there for apartment buildings that don't have a bunker? Our last place did, but out current place was built in 1912.
You go to the Gemeinde provided bunker. When a new house is built, the developer has to either incorporate a bunker, or pay a fee to the Gemeinde and they allocate slots in the communal one.
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Old 26.08.2016, 12:51
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You go to the Gemeinde provided bunker. When a new house is built, the developer has to either incorporate a bunker, or pay a fee to the Gemeinde and they allocate slots in the communal one.
I seem to remember that this no longer applies as the mandatory-ness of bunkers has been dropped. I could be wrong though.
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Old 26.08.2016, 13:15
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I seem to remember that this no longer applies as the mandatory-ness of bunkers has been dropped. I could be wrong though.
It wasn't long ago that my architect told me that the mandatory-ness of bunkers still applies. I can rip the two-tonne door off my bunker, throw away the 400 kg window, level the 30 cm step into the room and discard all the respiration gear (but still be left with the metre-thick walls), but I'd have to pay a fee to the Gemeinde (presumably equivalent to the fee that developers have to pay if they don't want to build bunkers). Or I can continue to use it as a pantry, larder, spare fridge and freezer site, wine cellar and recycling centre, just with an infeasibly huge door hanging open, next to the piddly-looking normal door also attached to the door frame.
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Old 26.08.2016, 13:23
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I seem to remember that this no longer applies as the mandatory-ness of bunkers has been dropped. I could be wrong though.
A while back Ueli Maurer said something about them not being needed as they were seen to be.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...r-ab--14646125

I think it is the individual Gemeinde. The newly constructed place I am in now has none, but the previous one in Zurich built about 5 years earlier did.

I don't remember voting on it, and I suspect it would have been an issue to change a law.
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You go to the Gemeinde provided bunker. When a new house is built, the developer has to either incorporate a bunker, or pay a fee to the Gemeinde and they allocate slots in the communal one.
At our Gemeinde bunker, I love the rows of coat hooks at the front of bunker, right past the blast door. So civilized!
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I can rip the two-tonne door off my bunker, throw away the 400 kg window, level the 30 cm step into the room and discard all the respiration gear (but still be left with the metre-thick walls), but I'd have to pay a fee to the Gemeinde (presumably equivalent to the fee that developers have to pay if they don't want to build bunkers). Or I can continue to use it as a pantry, larder, spare fridge and freezer site, wine cellar and recycling centre, just with an infeasibly huge door hanging open, next to the piddly-looking normal door also attached to the door frame.
They make great workshops. Lathe, mill, tablesaw, planer can all be firmly mounted to the thick floor and when you close the big door and window, nobody knows you're making stuff.

The door also tends to limit the size of the project, which in many cases is beneficial.
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Old 26.08.2016, 14:10
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They make great workshops. Lathe, mill, tablesaw, planer can all be firmly mounted to the thick floor and when you close the big door and window, nobody knows you're making stuff.
And all the dust you create adds a real air of authenticity to the wine cellared there.
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Re: What to expect from a bunker check?

When we were living in CH, our bunker housed the drum set of my teenage son. It worked a treat -- our next-door-neighbors were none the wiser to endless drumming of Green Day songs on Sunday afternoons.

I missed that bunker after we moved back to the US.
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