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StirB 24.08.2016 12:04

Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Hi all,


I have a nice looking (white/creme leather, ooh err), but very uncomfortable sofa in my living room. It was quite pricey, so I don't want to bin it or give it away, or destroy it inadvertantly.


I have a large covered (i.e. a roof/floor above me) terrace which I would like to put it out on. It wouldn't therefore be exposed to any rain, but would be to sun/heat/cold/wind/atmospheric stuff.


My question is, how will it hold up? Should I expect to see it mould up and decay within weeks/months? Is there something I can treat it with to minimise this issue?


I understand that it might discolour a bit in the sun, but it's white anyway, so that's not too much of an issue.

Sbrinz 24.08.2016 12:11

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
You can help the leather by applying saddle soap, which is sold in large Landi shops.

I wouldn't leave it outside after September, have you considered that things might hibernate in it over Winter, and the dampness will not be kind to the wooden frame.

k_and_e 24.08.2016 12:14

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
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Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644413)
I understand that it might discolour a bit in the sun, but it's white anyway, so that's not too much of an issue.

remember that white will change to yellow in the sun

Kittster 24.08.2016 12:15

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
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Originally Posted by Sbrinz (Post 2644423)
You can help the leather by applying saddle soap, which is sold in large Landi shops.

I wouldn't leave it outside after September, have you considered that things might hibernate in it over Winter, and the dampness will not be kind to the wooden frame.



Those things would have to be pretty determined to get to this sofa, it's quite high off the ground... The saddle soap sounds like a good idea (I think the next larger Landi is the one in Volketswil, they have some pretty decent beer too), as well as finding a cover for it.

JagWaugh 24.08.2016 12:38

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644413)
Hi all,


I have a nice looking (white/creme leather, ooh err), but very uncomfortable sofa in my living room. It was quite pricey, so I don't want to bin it or give it away, or destroy it inadvertantly.


I have a large covered (i.e. a roof/floor above me) terrace which I would like to put it out on. It wouldn't therefore be exposed to any rain, but would be to sun/heat/cold/wind/atmospheric stuff.


My question is, how will it hold up? Should I expect to see it mould up and decay within weeks/months? Is there something I can treat it with to minimise this issue?


I understand that it might discolour a bit in the sun, but it's white anyway, so that's not too much of an issue.

How well it holds up, or how long it lasts will depend on a couple of things.

The quality of the leather (not all leathers are the same).
How you take care of the leather.
If you leave it out all year round.

These people are the best I have found in Switzerland, both for information and products:

http://www.colourlock.ch/international.php

I've used their stuff on car seats, furniture and handbags, they've never fail failed to give me detailed advice, and the products I have used from them have only been 1A. (no affiliation, just a happy customer)

Like Sbrinz, I wouldn't recommend leaving it outside over the winter.

I would suggest a light, breathable, cover to keep UV, pollen, dust and insects off it when not in use.

I would also suggest examining the underside and general construction and close off any openings which rodents and insects might find to gain access to the inside.

StirB 24.08.2016 15:09

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Thanks for the advice guys.


As Kittster said, it would be determined creatures that made it home (17th floor).


Saddle Soap / Colourlock sound like a good plan, and I guess I can get some throws for it over winter, as I'm not that likely to be using it.


I suppose I'll just go for it and let y'all know how it goes :)

Sbrinz 24.08.2016 15:32

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Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644413)
snip.. I have a large covered (i.e. a roof/floor above me) terrace which I would like to put it out on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644560)
As Kittster said, it would be determined creatures that made it home (17th floor).

My mistake, I thought you were on the ground floor terrace, not on a 17th floor balcony.

StirB 24.08.2016 16:16

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Think a balcony juts out from a building and is therefore not covered by a contiguous roof.


On my plan, my area is described as Loggia/Terasse - I have the impression that a loggia is sealed from the elements, but my outdoor area isn't, save for a railing to stop you plummeting to an untimely end.

Landers 24.08.2016 16:27

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Saddle soap will rot the stitching, I guess depending on what it's made of, so be careful if you apply it. I've ruined some stuff in the past by using it.

JagWaugh 24.08.2016 16:31

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644599)
Think a balcony juts out from a building and is therefore not covered by a contiguous roof.


On my plan, my area is described as Loggia/Terasse - I have the impression that a loggia is sealed from the elements, but my outdoor area isn't, save for a railing to stop you plummeting to an untimely end.

A loggia will sometimes have a glass sliding curtain, but these have a large air gap. If the space is closed off fully, then it counts as part of the interior living space (even if it isn't heated).

StirB 24.08.2016 17:15

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
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Originally Posted by JagWaugh (Post 2644606)
A loggia will sometimes have a glass sliding curtain, but these have a large air gap. If the space is closed off fully, then it counts as part of the interior living space (even if it isn't heated).


So Terrace was right then? ;)

JagWaugh 24.08.2016 17:22

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
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Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644637)
So Terrace was right then? ;)

Can't say without a pic. A loggia originally had arched openings on the exterior walls, generally here if there are vestigial protrusions around the openings then it will be called a loggia.

The main thing is that you keep the sofa out of direct exposure to rain. As to the insects, wasps and such may still be an issue on the 17th floor, but I'm not sure about that.

Landers 24.08.2016 17:24

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So says the interweb:

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl...gia+definition

Mrs. Doolittle 24.08.2016 18:15

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
I would recommend something like rattan. We have that but just protect the cushions when we are not using them.

Since rattan is open and breathes nothing uninvited will live in it.

If the terrace is covered but not enclosed with glass rain can still be a problem if accompanied by wind.

Sbrinz 24.08.2016 21:15

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StirB (Post 2644637)
So Terrace was right then? ;)

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl...ace+definition

Sbrinz 24.08.2016 21:17

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
If you are worried about rain, you can buy made up plastic covers in building DIY centers.

StirB 25.08.2016 12:32

Re: Using Indoor Furniture Outdoors
 
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Originally Posted by Sbrinz (Post 2644791)
If you are worried about rain, you can buy made up plastic covers in building DIY centers.


I'm not worried about rain, the terrace is covered and it would be at the back of it, so probably 6m away from any water.


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