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Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Hi, Non-EU national with B permit here. Looking for a new apartment (min 2.5 rooms). Wife not here and marriage not registered in CH yet (but registered in home country). Most apartment application forms have a column for "partner's details". What should I do with it?

I'm not sure if my chances of getting an apartment increase or decrease when I state my status as "Verheiratet" and provide details of my wife who does not have a Swiss permit or the signature on the form.

To make things simpler, do you think it's ok to state my status as "Ledig" since it has not been registered in CH yet? We'll register the marriage here and she'll join me soon. But I need an apartment first in order to start that process.

Is it "providing false information" or do you think this is how I should go about it? Finding apartment seems like a black magic and I'm starting to think if this particular caveat has prevented me from getting some apartments.

Your opinion and suggestions will help.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

If she's not here and you put her details on the form, this would complicate things: landlord would want to look at her credit history, permit and ask for her signature on the contract...

I'd apply for myself and put 'ledig', if that's what you claim the authorities think of you. It's a simple matter of adding her later when she's here.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Thanks for the reply; I thought so too. But I don't know what the process exactly is for when I apply for her permit later. Do I need to provide the (the apartment owning agency) with my marriage registration? Does the information I provide now in the application form matter at that point in time?

Or is it simply a matter between me and the Swiss authorities and will not involve the apartment owning agency or will only involve in a very inconsequential way?
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Old 02.11.2016, 12:37
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Just tell the truth. You are married, but living apart at the moment, so put that on the form. Swiss people (or no one for that matter) dont like surprises down the road and will be more suspicious when such is found out.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

You only have to register your marriage if one of you is Swiss.

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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

I'd guess you have to at least notify the authorities that you got married, and perhaps asap. It's also to your benefit tax-wise: couples with a single earner (wife's not working) pay less tax, also less tax-at-source.

Also it's perfectly fine to put just your details on the form and not your wife's, even if you're married, but she's not living with it. Many people do that.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

The landlord will need to know how many people live in the apartment. And I understand she will live with you, i.e. you're obliged to disclose that.

Therefore: be honest, say you're married, your wife doesn't live here at the moment, but will join you soon.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Alright, I think I will keep on applying as I have: with my wife's details but no permit or signature. I've no idea at the moment about whether this is hurting my chances of getting apartments. Will keep trying. Thanks all
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

I don't think you need to mention her details. When you do that, it means you want your wife to be co-signatory on the rent contract, and she cannot do that while not yet here. Simple mentioning somewhere in remarks that you have a wife and she'll join you in a while should be sufficient.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Quick question again: What if I list myself as "Married" but leave the fields for my wife blank? It is really confusing what these fields are really intended for: are they asking me if we'll be renting the apartment together, or is it mandatory to provide them my wife's details no matter what?

If it is the former, I guess I can skip the details to simplify things? Because her living in the apartment is anyway conditional on her getting a Swiss Permit first (not that I plan it to be that way). So logically, if this field is asking for info on "people renting this property", it can be left blank?
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

Normally the form should be asking for details of people who are going to sign the contract. It can be you alone, that's perfectly fine, even if you have a wife.

If you and your wife both are going to sign, this has some legal implications. First, it'll be considered a family apartment, which is a bit special with regards to cancellation. And second, both you and your wife will be fully liable for any unpaid rent and damages. I.e. if you don't pay, the landlord will have a right to demand the payments in full also from your wife.
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Re: Apartment application question (Marriage not registered in CH yet)

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Normally the form should be asking for details of people who are going to sign the contract. It can be you alone, that's perfectly fine, even if you have a wife.

If you and your wife both are going to sign, this has some legal implications. First, it'll be considered a family apartment, which is a bit special with regards to cancellation. And second, both you and your wife will be fully liable for any unpaid rent and damages. I.e. if you don't pay, the landlord will have a right to demand the payments in full also from your wife.
Even if the spouse isn't on the contract of the application it is still considered the 'family home.

But relating to the application it is best you check married, leave her off the application for now and write in the remarks that your wife is still waiting on her permit.

Simples.
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