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How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

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So I need to move a stone BBQ / grill thing that's on the stone patio and looking for tips on how to do it. I just need to move it to a different location / position from where it is right now.

It has enough space underneath it for one of those prop up crate carriers you see at supermarkets but I don't have one of those and no idea where to get hold of one from.

I also thought of proping it on wheels and then drag it to it's new location but I think it's too heavey for the wheels I bought a while back that are mainly designed for moving furniture around the house.

It can be taken apart into 3 or 4 pieces, so the last option is to take it apart and move the smaller parts one by one instead.

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Off to the Bau & Hobby to see what they recommend for now!
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Old 15.04.2017, 12:21
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Need to borrow the EF wisdom here...

So I need to move a stone BBQ / grill thing that's on the stone patio and looking for tips on how to do it. I just need to move it to a different location / position from where it is right now.

It has enough space underneath it for one of those prop up crate carriers you see at supermarkets but I don't have one of those and no idea where to get hold of one from.

I also thought of proping it on wheels and then drag it to it's new location but I think it's too heavey for the wheels I bought a while back that are mainly designed for moving furniture around the house.

It can be taken apart into 3 or 4 pieces, so the last option is to take it apart and move the smaller parts one by one instead.

Thoughts?

Off to the Bau & Hobby to see what they recommend for now!
How far does it have to go?
How flat is the surface you are moving it over?

If it is going over a reasonably flat, hard surface and you can tilt it enough to get a broomstick sized dowel under it, then get yourself a few lengths of hardwood dowel (You'll need enough rollers to have one every 10cm underneath it, plus one additional dowel).

Tilt, slide a dowel under the raised edge.
Lay another dowel about 10cm away from the edge.
Push the BBQ onto the 2nd dowel.
Lay another dowel about 10cm away from the edge.
Push the BBQ onto the 3rd dowel.
repeat. When a dowel comes out the far end, move it to the front.

A bit more difficult to steer than using Golfballs, but to use Golfballs you need to get the whole thing on a board with a layer of Golfballs underneath it.
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

Sledge hammer and buy a Outdoor chef kettle barbeque ?
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

Thanks for the suggestion Jag, it's not that easy to tilt as it's rather heavey but it might work just need to get hold of the dowels, should have asked at the Bau & Hobby!

It does't have to go far maybe around 4 metres across the patio then need to turn it around.

The sledge hammer idea crossed my mind Today Only, not sure how much these things are worth and the land lord might not even notice!
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

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It looks like this, in fact it might even be the same one!

http://m.tutti.ch/luzern/garten-hand...e_14429890.htm
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Thanks for the suggestion Jag, it's not that easy to tilt as it's rather heavey but it might work just need to get hold of the dowels, should have asked at the Bau & Hobby!

It does't have to go far maybe around 4 metres across the patio then need to turn it around.

The sledge hammer idea crossed my mind Today Only, not sure how much these things are worth and the land lord might not even notice!
4 meters is no problem with dowels - I've moved things that were in the multiple Ton range with some steel pipe, a hydraulic jack, and a comealong. Your big concern will be getting the first roller under the bbq (if it is just held together with a bit of mortar then you'll have to limit the place where you are applying the tilt force to the lowest section of concrete. Can you post a pic of the BBQ - that would make it easier to suggest how to get it up onto the dowels.

EDIT: Just saw the pic. The "C" shaped base will make it impossibly hard to move it sideways. Start by spinning it so that the back is facing where you want to go.
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It looks like this, in fact it might even be the same one!

http://m.tutti.ch/luzern/garten-hand...e_14429890.htm
If a new one's only fifty francs (no idea if that link's to a secondhand one or not as I can't read german) is it really worth risking a hernia trying to shift it in one piece?
If you can, I'd take it to bits and move it bit by bit (on a skateboard or something), less risk of the whole thing toppling over; and if a section breaks, it's probably possible to relace whichever bit broke.
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It looks like this, in fact it might even be the same one!

http://m.tutti.ch/luzern/garten-hand...e_14429890.htm
Sledge hammer. For sure.
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If a new one's only fifty francs (no idea if that link's to a secondhand one or not as I can't read german) is it really worth risking a hernia trying to shift it in one piece?
If you can, I'd take it to bits and move it bit by bit (on a skateboard or something), less risk of the whole thing toppling over; and if a section breaks, it's probably possible to relace whichever bit broke.
That's just an old battered one that I just found from a quick google search. Mine is of course much better looking than that I don't think it's ever been used judging by the condition of the inside.

I think these things are probably worth 500 and up. It's a monstrocity though I agree, never tried cooking anything on it, I assume it's no better than cooking on an open fire as you can't control the heat. Maybe good for smoking fish? Next door neighbour won't be too pleased for sure!

Next thing would be to ask the landlord if I can just chuck it, still the same issue unless the Ökihof guys can come and pick it up, although I doubt it very much.

Any takers from EF?
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

In many cases the different parts aren't screwed together, or fixated by mortar or cement; the only thing keeping the structure from disassembling is its own weight. That brings additional difficulties and risks when trying to move the whole structure at once.

Just to give you an idea what you're dealing with: This model looks similar, it weighs 460 kg. This is a bit more sophisiticated yet bsically the same weight. The weight rules out carrying the whole thing at once.

Simply disassemble and move piece by piece, this can probably be done by two with relative ease, definitely by four. Invite friends to a grill party on the condition they help moving the thing when they arrive. You want to have gloves ready for each helper, e.g. these.
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

Be a man and lift it.

(or are you a woman? )

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Old 15.04.2017, 19:02
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Any takers from EF?
Actually, I could be interested.

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Be a man and lift it.

(or are you a woman? )

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Having an identity crisis Tom or why are you doubting everybody elses gender today?

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Will you carry it across the Gotthard?

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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

Well, if you provide said BBQ afterwards, I come and lift the thing. I can pack like a mule, so you maybe only need one more person. Preferably not Tom, as he'd probably let it slip off his girly hands and the bloody thing lands on my foot.
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Re: How to move a garden stone BBQ / Grill?

Picture I managed to take earlier before the sun went down...

I think I will follow what Urs Max said and just move it piece by piece. I have some sturdy straps which can be used with some metal rods to make it easy to carry.

Will post some pics from the BBQ in about a month's time... invitations to follow!
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Picture I managed to take earlier before the sun went down...

I think I will follow what Urs Max said and just move it piece by piece. I have some sturdy straps which can be used with some metal Rods to make it easy to carry.

Will post some pics from the BBQ in about a month's time... invitations to follow!
I have a dolly which I can bring along.
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Well, if you provide said BBQ afterwards, I come and lift the thing. I can pack like a mule, so you maybe only need one more person. Preferably not Tom, as he'd probably let it slip off his girly hands and the bloody thing lands on my foot.
If I carry the grill grate - can I come to the BBQ?
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If I carry the grill grate - can I come to the BBQ?
I´ll bring the beers, that ok as well?
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I have a dolly which I can bring along.
Blow-up?

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What´s a dolly? Same as a Hund in German?
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