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Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Looking at moving to a small rural town outside of ZH with a max of 45 min commute. We were driving around, wasting gas money on a bored day and found a few towns that were full of charm and creative, yes creative, energy. As if real artists might actually live there. The other towns were nice too but the "Bunzli" radar was going off and that's what we are trying to avoid. We want a small, friendly, creative and open minded community. I guess a "hippy town" might be a better description of what we are looking for, somewhere close to nature as well. Most of the towns that we liked were around Albis and the Shilthal. We love the beauty of that area and might move there but first I was wondering if any of you have any indepth knowledge of this area or any area that meets the above description. Only requirement is that it has a bus stop.
Just can't stand the superficial money centric Zurisee anymore. So what say you? Any cool country towns around?

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Looking at moving to a small rural town outside of ZH with a max of 45 min commute. We were driving around, wasting gas money on a bored day and found a few towns that were full of charm and creative, yes creative, energy. As if real artists might actually live there. The other towns were nice too but the "Bunzli" radar was going off and that's what we are trying to avoid. We want a small, friendly, creative and open minded community. I guess a "hippy town" might be a better description of what we are looking for, somewhere close to nature as well. Most of the towns that we liked were around Albis and the Shilthal. We love the beauty of that area and might move there but first I was wondering if any of you have any indepth knowledge of this area or any area that meets the above description. Only requirement is that it has a bus stop.
Just can't stand the superficial money centric Zurisee anymore. So what say you? Any cool country towns around?

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Try up on lake of Constance in Thurgovie, Steckborn, maybe ?
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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

If Einsiedeln is good enough for Lee "Scratch" Perry...
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Try up on lake of Constance in Thurgovie, Steckborn, maybe ?
A bit too far north. The goal is to get as close to the Alps as possible while still being able to commute to ZH.

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If Einsiedeln is good enough for Lee "Scratch" Perry...
We love that area and have a few friends who live there but that's a bit too far. If it wasn't for the traffic jam commute it might be doable otherwise we would have to change jobs as well. We already looked into that but our jobs keep us in ZH for the moment.
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We were driving around, wasting gas money on a bored day and found a few towns that were full of charm and creative, yes creative, energy. As if real artists might actually live there.
Which ones appeared like that to you?
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Old 05.06.2017, 21:37
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Which ones appeared like that to you?
I'll let you know as soon as we close on the oversized apartment.
Actually quite a few small towns between Wettsville and Baar, most of them near Türlen See. Very beautiful scenery and the people that we encountered seem very friendly and a lot more relaxed. Almost a different world compared to the stress just over the hill. The air is also a lot fresher so that helps. One thing I noticed was how many families with kids were outside enjoying the crap weather we had the last two days. Everyone on this side of the hill (Zurisee) were all indoors stuck on their Ithings. Even my wife noticed that.
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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Or perhaps they had gone to Türlensee for the day

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Or perhaps they had gone to Türlensee for the day
No, these were the people in the dorf. We checked out some statistics and its was surprising to see Hausen am Albis is actually more liberal than Thalwil, Rüschlikon, etc. In fact you would have to go all the way to ZH city limits before you find a more liberal population. (based on a very unscientific small sample quick study) I have no problems with conservatives but when you see that 85% voted for SVP, well I think you get the picture. The key to finding these small liberal towns is also based on a very unscientific method. The flower gardens. Manicured, landscaped and then manicured again =SVP. Landscaped but a bit on the wild, natural side = This town is cool. Looking at the voting stats confirms this.
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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Actually we also look forward to going out of the City.
We need more space (>120sqm), and that means apartments of min 3.5k+ CHF per month in the city center. We definetely dont want to pay that much at all. So far we figured out and also loved the south west of ZH city (uitikon, wettswil, affoltern a.A. etc) ... The only concern we have is "if we can really manage it" after 5 years living in the city + having a tram stop right infront of our apartment.. For sure it will hit us bad, but all for the kids right?
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No, these were the people in the dorf. We checked out some statistics and its was surprising to see Hausen am Albis is actually more liberal than Thalwil, Rüschlikon, etc. In fact you would have to go all the way to ZH city limits before you find a more liberal population. (based on a very unscientific small sample quick study) I have no problems with conservatives but when you see that 85% voted for SVP, well I think you get the picture. The key to finding these small liberal towns is also based on a very unscientific method. The flower gardens. Manicured, landscaped and then manicured again =SVP. Landscaped but a bit on the wild, natural side = This town is cool. Looking at the voting stats confirms this.
Hausen am Albis is a super nice village (i know because we stay in the area). People are usually very friendly and open to outsiders (even to ones that look very different, like me). So is with the other villages. But try to avoid Ebertswil (it gets the miserable fog from Zug whole of winter). Also, SVP is the natural choice in this area, have you seen how many people are actually into farming? But the farmers are mostly very nice people and frankly too busy minding their own businesses to actively go and bother others in a day to day life. Added benefit is you get farm fresh meat, milk and eggs (no supermarket stuff compares to that), fresh baked breads with no additives etc. Plus you get to go to all the locals festivals like the Modellflugtag, Rosenfest, Jodlerabend, St. Nikolas umzug etc.
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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Does anybody have an opinion about Oberrieden? I find it very beautiful, but I know nothing about people there.
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We checked out some statistics and its was surprising to see Hausen am Albis is actually more liberal than Thalwil, Rüschlikon, etc. In fact you would have to go all the way to ZH city limits before you find a more liberal population. (based on a very unscientific small sample quick study) I have no problems with conservatives but when you see that 85% voted for SVP, well I think you get the picture.
Is there a website where one can look up how a particular Gemeinde votes? I'd be interested to do a bit of research into this myself. Where did you find your stats?
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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Are you specifically interested in mountains or lakes? If you consider lake as well, I would recommend something around Greifensee (the small city is also called Greifensee). The water is warmer than the Alp lakes and very clean.
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What about canton Zug? It's pretty close to Zurich, very well connected by train and a very nice place to live
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Is there a website where one can look up how a particular Gemeinde votes? I'd be interested to do a bit of research into this myself. Where did you find your stats?
Spend some time browsing around the Tagi's Datenblog, lots of interesting info to be found.

For instance, this (from 2015) shows how each party has gained or lost in individual Gemeinden:

http://blog.tagesanzeiger.ch/datenbl...hp/10874/titel

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FYI, there will usually be a breakdown of how the various Gemeinden voted published as the paper reports on the various referenda or initiatives, keep an eye on those that are of interest to you. More insight might be gained by looking atm voting on individual issues is than party affilition.


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With respect to linking voting trends or party affiliation and 'coolness' of a village - or any other subjective assessment of it's varied inhabitants thoughts and practices - a wise data analyst might keep in mind caveats about correlation, assumptions, and the importance of 'why'. Just sayin'.

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Re: Going country, any cool towns outside of ZH?

Aarau. Opposite direction from the alps, but 30 minutes from Germany/France. A hip student town on the Aare.
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