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Basel Land or Basel Stadt

I will sing a contract with a Company inside Basel and i start to look for an apartment i am confused about the following regarding Basel Land and Stadt:

- which one is cheaper from tax point of view? ( i have 2 kids and my wife is not working)
- which one is cheaper from renting apartment?
- which one is better for the kids ? gardens...activities..etc.


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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Tax: depends upon community where you live, but usually marginally better in Baselland (see this link)
http://www.bs.ch/publikationen/steue...-bl-ag-so.html

Rental: impression that somewhat cheaper and easier to get bigger/newer places to rent in Baselland. Tradeoff is the commute - not bad compared to most big cities but likely add 10 to 15 minutes (but transport links are good)

Best for activities: both are good and safe (lots of children-friendly activities, parks, etc.) More critical factors are if you speak German and if your family has easy opportunities (international school, social, church, or hobby groups, etc.) to meet others. If family doesn't speak German, I'd lean towards Basel or Riehen (or closer suburb like Binningen or Allschwil if go to Basel Land) Either likely easier than Derendingen/Solothurn just by virtue of size and number international people.

Other considerations: many people shop in Germany/France due to much lower prices, so being close to border is advantageous if you do this. Also, be aware of traffic if you do the international school thing - traffic at drop-off and pickup can be long and tedious

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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Very helpful answer! thanks a lot

this means Basel Land and near to the Border with Basel Stadt if i understand well!!

my kids speak some German and they will go to Public School since we are in here since last year.

according to table you send to me the tax will be only 10% , is that right?? Only one working with 2 kids! or i misunderstand something?
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Credit Suisse have a handy tax calculator based on postcode. Try inputting a few based on any properties you find on Homegate and then you can compare and contrast BS and BL and the different neighbourhoods in BL.
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Basel-Land wins on all three of the criteria listed by the OP.

Unless the OP plans to live in the furthest reaches of BL, the commute will be negligibly longer. Travelling from parts of BS into the city centre or across town (to Novartis or Roche, for example) can take longer than travelling to the same destinations from inner BL Gemeinden.

Lack of German is certainly no more of a problem in BL, especially within 10–15 km of BS, than in BS. Schools in BL provide free German lessons for those children who need it, and adults will find a lot of help and understanding from the locals—if they can find any Swiss in the area.
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Exactly ! I will be working with both Roche and Novartis but i am thinking to move with my car to be more flex.
And i expect to spend 20-30 min. Going from home to there.
Regarding the German language i can speak a little pit ...my level is A2.2 and i will do some courses.
For the kids in school they have intensive courses in German language.

I have one more question regarding living cost in Basel .
I am considering the following
2000 rent
500 home expense...internet, electricity, heating
1000 for insurance 4 persons
300 car cost including fuel
1200 food ...

Do i miss something?? This means 5000 monthly
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

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I have one more question regarding living cost in Basel .
I am considering the following
2000 rent
500 home expense...internet, electricity, heating
1000 for insurance 4 persons
300 car cost including fuel
1200 food ...

Do i miss something?? This means 5000 monthly
Car cost should include insurance.
Car should also consider cost of parking. Sometimes included in rent, but generally is not included and is at an extra cost (if it's even available). Additional (private) parking in Basel can run around 120/mo. Alternatively, parking on street (permit from city) is 140/yr or 30/mo if I remember right?
Food cost is probably good if you're not eating out much.
Home expenses sound reasonable, but you should also consider if you're paying for cell phone service, and how many lines.
You should also budget about 40/mo for Billag (ahem... tax)
Also consider public transit costs if your family will be using the trams and buses. Monthly passes are about 75/mo per person. But generally for casual users is better to buy tickets as you go. Better yet, walk or ride bikes for free! (at least bike parking is free)
Your insurance estimate can vary greatly depending on provider, but is probably a fair estimate.

If you haven't seen this website yet, it is has some useful information about living in Basel-stadt.

http://www.bs.ch/en/Portrait/living-...nd-moving.html
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Exactly ! I will be working with both Roche and Novartis but i am thinking to move with my car to be more flex.
And i expect to spend 20-30 min. Going from home to there.
Regarding the German language i can speak a little pit ...my level is A2.2 and i will do some courses.
For the kids in school they have intensive courses in German language.

I have one more question regarding living cost in Basel .
I am considering the following
2000 rent
500 home expense...internet, electricity, heating
1000 for insurance 4 persons
300 car cost including fuel
1200 food ...

Do i miss something?? This means 5000 monthly
You may want to reconsider that figure for rent. For a decent apartment with modern fixtures, with at least 3.5 room and 100 + square metres in size, it can range between 2.5K to 4K CHF rent per month, depending on your taste and area you want to live in. In addition to rent there is a fixed amount you pay on top for building costs , referred to as 'nebenkosten' (for things like the central heating, hot water, contriobution towards cleaning of communal ares etc) - this is anywhere between 150 - 350 CHF, again depending on apartment. Also if you have a car usuallly there is an additional charge, especially if its a modern block with underground parking (120-160 CHF per month, typically). Though if there is on-street parking you can obtain a blue residents badge for approx. 120 CHF per year.

Check out homegate.ch or immoscout24.ch
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

Thank you all!! very useful information.

well i am not looking for Modern or new construction apartment since the standard in Switzerland is high for the apartment. i had a look in tutti.ch and i found the prices between 1700-2200 CHF for 3/4 rooms and 80/100 square meter.


i will add parking (i think i will take the external one from the city) and car insurance according to your suggestion.
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Re: Basel Land or Basel Stadt

This sticky thread has lots of links to others regarding cost of living in various Swiss cities so may have some Basel info in there somewhere too.

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...st-living.html
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Basel-Land wins on all three of the criteria listed by the OP.
tax may depend on your circumstances. when i entered some numbers in, i got bs as lower than a gemeinde in bl:
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tax may depend on your circumstances. when i entered some numbers in, i got bs as lower than a gemeinde in bl:
My guess is that if the OP is looking to rent an apartment for around CHF 2,000 per month, he's unlikely to be earning the sort of money that would attract a tax bill of >CHF 100k p.a. Notwthstanding that, I suspect you've made a slight error in your calculations somewhere, or at least the tax calculator has. Was that for Riehen or Bettingen, by the way? They'll come out cheaper than the rest of BS.
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My guess is that if the OP is looking to rent an apartment for around CHF 2,000 per month, he's unlikely to be earning the sort of money that would attract a tax bill of >CHF 100k p.a. Notwthstanding that, I suspect you've made a slight error in your calculations somewhere, or at least the tax calculator has. Was that for Riehen or Bettingen, by the way? They'll come out cheaper than the rest of BS.
That was for Basel city. Riehen and Bettingen come out even cheaper.
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That was for Basel city. Riehen and Bettingen come out even cheaper.
Now compare to Bottmingen, BL.
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Now compare to Bottmingen, BL.
I looked only at BS and Allschwil as they were the ones relevant to me.

If you're willing to move further out you have more options. You could even compare other cantons which are much cheaper than BS and BL.
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I looked only at BS and Allschwil as they were the ones relevant to me.

If you're willing to move further out you have more options. You could even compare other cantons which are much cheaper than BS and BL.
Why would only those two be "relevant"? Proximity to Novartis? It really makes me laugh when people dismiss accommodation options that are "too far out" because they add five minutes to a six-minute commute. How quickly we forget life in big cities -- London, for example, where a one-hour commute is sheer luxury to many.
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How quickly we forget life in big cities -- London, for example, where a one-hour commute is sheer luxury to many.
Why would London be a reference at all?! From the center of Allschwil to Marktplatz it takes me 10-12 min with the tram. Call me spoiled, but anything longer than that just adds time without adding any incremental benefit.
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Why would only those two be "relevant"?
For me, moving to Bottmingen would increase my daily travel time (not just commute) by 2.5 hours per day.
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How quickly we forget life in big cities -- London, for example, where a one-hour commute is sheer luxury to many.
I never minded the tube in the morning - in fact, I found it quite fun. I did varying 1.5-2 hour commutes (one direction) for a few years until I needed more time after which I moved 5 minutes walk from work and continued to relocate as I moved jobs.

Short commute has been shown to be the biggest boost to life satisfaction, so as a single with no ties it is a no-brainer.

Once you have to consider commute of the SO, schools for kids etc. then everything becomes more of a compromise.
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For me, moving to Bottmingen would increase my daily travel time (not just commute) by 2.5 hours per day.
Compared to Basel or Allschwil??? How do you get to work, crawling on your hands and knees?!
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