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can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

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Is there rules or advice on when my landlord can force me to pay to get my apartment repainted?

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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

If it has not been painted in the last 10 years, it is a reasonable request, so yes, you can ask for it to be repainted! The landlord pays however!
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If it has not been painted in the last 10 years, it is a reasonable request, so yes, you can ask for it to be repainted! The landlord pays however!
That's true but it wasn't the OP's question.

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Is there rules or advice on when my landlord can force me to pay to get my apartment repainted?

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The landlord can make a tenant pay a percentage of the cost for repainting if the paintwork has been damaged more than just normal wear and tear and within the accepted lifespan of paint.
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Is there rules or advice on when my landlord can force me to pay to get my apartment repainted?

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It should be in your rental contract. Normally though repainting an apartment is the responsibility of the landlord.
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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

This is generally done by the landlord when you move out, and unless you have damaged it excessively within a certain number of years, is considered wear and tear.
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The landlord can make a tenant pay a percentage of the cost for repainting if the paintwork has been damaged more than just normal wear and tear and within the accepted lifespan of paint.
When you move out

Until that time they have no say in it unless it is causing damage (e.g. no longer protecting the underlying plasterboard).
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When you move out

Until that time they have no say in it unless it is causing damage (e.g. no longer protecting the underlying plasterboard).
Oh yes, my reply was assuming the OP was moving out based on his other thread which I had read before this one.
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Is there rules or advice on when my landlord can force me to pay to get my apartment repainted?

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What's the situation, the trigger for his demand? Are you moving out, did you flood the apartment, set it on fire? And what's the status of the paint, also its age, etc?
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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

According to this table, the wall painting costs are 100% the responsibility of the landlord after 8 years so if they've not been painted in that time and you've not significantly damaged them in that time, he should pick up the total bill.

Normal wear and tear is not on your cost, only if your departure has forced him to repaint all or part of it due to damage do you pay a fraction of the 8 years depending on how long it was last repainted.
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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

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How do they define normal wear and tear for paint?

Anyone have any ideas

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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

What's so difficult to understand about that? No there's no list. It's really just common sense as to what constitutes normal wear and tear vs excessive one. The odd small discoloration, or a couple of streaks from some kid drawing on the wall with a pen or a few small holes from nails where pictures used to hang or whatever are fine. Massive holes, substantial discoloration or a partly ripped off wall are not.
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What's so difficult to understand about that? No there's no list. It's really just common sense as to what constitutes normal wear and tear vs excessive one. The odd small discoloration, or a couple of streaks from some kid drawing on the wall with a pen or a few small holes from nails where pictures used to hang or whatever are fine. Massive holes, substantial discoloration or a partly ripped off wall are not.
Actually there is a list, compiled by the Mietverband, it's linked to in the sticky:

https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...ertabelle.html

They also publish a more detailed booklet - it costs 10 CHF - bottom of that page.
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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

The question arises, at least in my mind, as to how the landlord should be of this opinion?







Did the OP invite him into his apartment? That is, how can he (the landlord) have knowledge of the condition of the paintwork?
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Re: can my landlord make me pay to paint my apartment

I moved out of my apartment towards the end of last year and when I moved in 7 years ago they never did any renovations. I left the apartment with quite a few marks on the walls. I manage to sweet talk the agency as they knew they have never done any work and it was desperate of a uplift. It worked.
Maybe check when the last work was done.
Even if you have to do the paint and its white. You can buy some cheap matt paint with a roller quite cheap from Coop Hobby.
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