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I am not an Englishman but I find the forum very interesting. I am from Romania and I have been working for a few years in Switzerland in IT.

Renting a nice flat is a very complex job, because east europeans like me are disliked by most landlords. Of course the Swiss have priority and imho the only apartaments where the east europeans are considered for renting, are the ones that the Swiss do not want (because of being too expensive or however).
Both me an my wife have good jobs, enough income to cover the rent and clean Betreibungsregisterauszug.
We live in Luzern, where the competition for renting a flat should not be as fierce as in Zürich for example.

Sometimes the rejection in applying for an apartment to rent are really rude. Most of the times they do not give any feedback.

Do you know of relocation companies that are willing to play the role of the intermediary and help in finding a nice flat, which would give a better chance as they are seen as more trustworthy than me?
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I have managed relocation projects in Luzern and the competition for apartments is fierce. Landlords can afford to be very selective.


Sometimes a colleague or someone in HR can help with the approval process. Of course not everyone is comfortable asking these people to intervene.


Relocation professionals are not magicians and we can't change the mindset of a landlord who doesn't want certain nationalities. But you have to ask yourself if this is the kind of landlord you really want anyways.
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That is true. Unfortunately the same persons would change attitude at 180 degrees and even warmly welcome us if somebody just recommended us to them, that we are not canibals, criminals and so forth


My practice is that I ask Swiss colleagues to phone to the landlords, this does not seem to help very much either.


The thing is .. I imagine there should be companies that charge one months' rent to make such a relocation...
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That is true. Unfortunately the same persons would change attitude at 180 degrees and even warmly welcome us if somebody just recommended us to them, that we are not canibals, criminals and so forth


My practice is that I ask Swiss colleagues to phone to the landlords, this does not seem to help very much either.


The thing is .. I imagine there should be companies that charge one months' rent to make such a relocation...
Well, there are: Google.

Thing with a Swiss friend calling for you is that the other side immediately suspects that it won't be possible to communicate with you due to language problems. And renting a flat is a long-term "relationship".
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Re: renting flat - expat services

I'd get some sort of "endorsement" or recommendation or whatever it may be called from your employer.

Back in the day, fresh off the plane, with 0 Swiss connections/friends, no German, and very limited time - I landed in CH and a week later I was already traveling for work - I got my boss to write a note confirming where I worked, what I did, level of salary, etc. that the relocation agent made sure it was always on top of my paperwork for whatever apartment we wanted to apply for.

Your nationality is outside of your control but the above might help, hopefully. Good luck!!!
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I'd get some sort of "endorsement" or recommendation or whatever it may be called from your employer.

Back in the day, fresh off the plane, with 0 Swiss connections/friends, no German, and very limited time - I landed in CH and a week later I was already traveling for work - I got my boss to write a note confirming where I worked, what I did, level of salary, etc. that the relocation agent made sure it was always on top of my paperwork for whatever apartment we wanted to apply for.

Your nationality is outside of your control but the above might help, hopefully. Good luck!!!
Same here. Arrived Basel 03 Jan and started travelling on the 5th for about a 3 weeks. American (-), not working for one of the pharma companies (-), wanting (gasp) a 3 year lease (-), with pets (-). What could go wrong???
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Well, there are: Google.

Thing with a Swiss friend calling for you is that the other side immediately suspects that it won't be possible to communicate with you due to language problems. And renting a flat is a long-term "relationship".


The OP has been here a few years so communication in German should not be the major issue.


A relocation agent should have contacts and this does help. Landlords have a harder time saying no to them.


Relocation agencies do not charge based on the monthly apartment rent.
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Re: renting flat - expat services

+1 on the letter from your employer, worked like a treat for me as well
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Re: renting flat - expat services

There are tips in a couple of threads in this sticky which might improve ones chances of finding a flat.

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Re: renting flat - expat services

I just wanted to drop a brief note to recommend these lovely folks we worked with:

https://www.executive-relocation.ch/en

We were recently in a similar predicament whilst looking for apartments as part of our upcoming move from Geneva back to Zurich. We commenced our assisted search with them 2 weeks ago, and have recently signed a lease for a wonderful apartment in Zurich.

Their list of contacts, comprehension of our wishes and understanding of the intricacies of the housing market (e.g. they could point out the subtle cues from advertisements which meant it was simply not worth our applying), made them an invaluable resource. Highly recommended, and reasonably priced.
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