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Old 28.10.2017, 16:31
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Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

Hi,

just wondering if someone knows the rules regarding a pre-inspection when leaving an apartment.

I have just given notice that I will be leaving - 3 months notice, as per the rental contract which means the end of the lease is 31 January. No problems with this & the Regie has acknowledged it.

However, they have just notified me that they want to do a pré-état des lieux inspection in mid november (2.5 months before leaving!). So I have 2 questions:
1 - Am I obligated to agree to this?
2 - Can I insist it is done somewhat nearer the time?

(Fwiw I have been a trouble-free tenant, no issues along the way)

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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

Maybe they want to do an assessment to see if anything needs renovating or updating, for example the bathroom or kitchen, and they want to work out whether any new tenant can move in straight after you or will have to wait a month or two while they renovate?

Is the apartment old or new?
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Old 28.10.2017, 20:41
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

If you are paying full whack during that period, they can't access to do decorating and upgrading. If they want to do so, then you should discuss gving them access in exchange for less rent. I did that with my parents' rented house when they had to go into OAP home.
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

I wouldn't read too much into this .. It's probably pretty much just to give you both a heads up so that there are less surprises on the actual move out inspection. Might be nothing sinister.

When we moved last year we asked the agent to come around well before the move to check the place and tell us what would need to fixed and what didn't matter.. We were actually pleasantly surprised and had to do less than expected.

We'd been there 4 years and when she looked around and saw some grubby bits here or there or scuffs on the floor etc she just put it down to fair wear and tear.. In the end I just painted the kids play room and hired a professional cleaner for the final clean.
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

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So I have 2 questions:
1 - Am I obligated to agree to this?
2 - Can I insist it is done somewhat nearer the time?
1. Yes.
2. No.

The reason for this is that a tenant always has to permit the landlord access to the property, as long as proper notice, in advance, has been given. The landlord is entitled to assess the state of the property or, as Sandgrounder has said, to view it to decide about possible renovations.

Having said that, if the actual date they propose really doesn't suit you, you can probably fairly easily shift to another day near the date they first set.

At the time of the inspection, write down everything the landlord points out, so that you can used that list, as John-H did, to guide your cleaning and fixing before you move. If the landlord declares some particular work to be unnecessary, such as: "You don't need to clean the bathroom, because we intend ripping it all up and replacing it, as soon as you leave," then ask for this to be put in writing.
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Old 29.10.2017, 03:16
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

I would welcome a pre inspection, you will then know what is expected of you.

In some rental contracts there are clauses that electricians must inspect the appliances and make a written report, naturally at your cost. This is complete BS and any consumer magazine will tell you they can't make you do that (I wrote an article here on the Forum).
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Old 29.10.2017, 10:29
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

I have the following questions.
In my apartment, following things are broken.
1. In the bathroom, out of 4 water taps, one water tap is not working. (This was working when I took the possession of the apartment)
2. In the living hall one electric switch is not working (This was working when I took the possession of the apartment)
3. For one window, the blind is not opening correctly up to top of the window (the external window blind)

Is it problem while handing over the apartment? Is it part of regular maintenance of the apartment?

Should I ask for a pre-inspection to check this?
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Old 29.10.2017, 10:39
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Is it problem while handing over the apartment?

Should I ask for a pre-inspection to check this?
Yes, that will be an issue. Why didn´t you inform the landlord when it happened?
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Re: Pré-état des lieux - is it obligatory???

Oh then I need to check how it goes.

This happened recently and I was in the mood of moving out and also these things had some alternatives (meaning there are multiple switch box and since one stopped working, I started using the other one).

Thanks for your reply. Now any way I will inform.
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Thanks to all the replies :-)
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