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Old 18.05.2018, 11:31
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What is a vacuum tube?

There is no vacuum inside.
There certainly is, unless it is a mercury vapor tube, which is not called a vacuum tube anyway.

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I like English. I wish it were my native language. It has its issues though.
It had a troubled childhood, you see. It never knew its rightful parents and was brought up by Romans, Anglo Saxons, Celts, the French, and various nutjobs in between, endlessly pushed from pillar to post. Each era taking its sorry toll on it, influencing words, bending and shaping others. Poor kid didn't know which way it was supposed to go.

Later, in its recent years, there have been cases of abuse by adoptive parents; the Americans, the Australians, Europeans trying to crowbar badly pronounced and awkward alterations at its DNA-level into their own languages. It has been internationalised and bastardised to the point where its multiple personalities have been formally recognised and consigned to a dropdown menu. No wonder it has issues.

Then there was txt spk.


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You have some very strange misconceptions about the English language.

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What the hell is a vacuum cleaner?

There is no vacuum inside. It does not clean vacuum. It makes the low-pressure air, which is not a vacuum, dirtier.

German, Russian, and my native language call it dust sucker. It’s what it does. It sucks the dust.
Vacuum cleaners produce a partial vacuum, via a centrifugal fan (or by witchcraft, in the case of Dyson vacuum cleaners). You can call them "partial vacuum cleaners" if you like, but that would be clumsy and stupid.

You may (or may not) be interested to learn that the original concept for what became the vacuum cleaner worked by blowing air to remove the dust, instead of sucking it. If only that had worked, you wouldn't be all conflicted today.

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What is a vacuum tube?

There is no vacuum inside. If it were, it wouldn’t say anything about its purpose. The vacuum cleaner is also a tube, by the way.
Again, a vacuum tube has a partial vacuum inside it. A total vacuum is near-impossible to achieve. "Vacuum tube" s a very accurate description of the item.

Vacuum cleaners are not tubes. In the case of the small versions that you drag around the house, there is a long tube connecting the brush head to the vacuum-generator and dust bag, but the cleaner itself is not a tube.

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In my native language, species and race are distinct words. In English, they are interchangeable, even though the biological race is below the level of subspecies. This is an issue since the radical right propaganda advertises there are multiple species of humans. It’s not true. However, there are biological races.
"Species" and "race" are distinct words in English. They even look different. You are incorrect to say that they are interchangeable. "Race" is a subset of "species". We do not talk about different species of humans (since all humans belong to one species), nor domestic dogs, etc.

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I like Swiss German though. It’s the best attempt ever to fix German. It still has der, die, das, but it’s not a military grade language anymore.
Swiss German barely uses genders, at least for the definite articles, so "der, die, das" is not the best set of words to choose to illustrate the superiority of Swiss German over its majestic neighbour.

It's also barely a written language, so wouldn't be much use in military situations. It's probably the reason why the Swiss haven't fought a war for a while.
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Old 18.05.2018, 11:56
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..... You can call them "partial vacuum cleaners" if you like, but that would be clumsy and stupid.......
Vacuum cleaner is clumsy as well. That's why hoover scored points.

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LOL, that's a secret, mate. The official reasons are better for our reputation
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What is a vacuum tube?

There is no vacuum inside.
That's right. It's so empty, it doesn't even contain a vacuum. Though if you look really closely, you might find a small hoover.

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That is not true.
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Old 18.05.2018, 12:38
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That is not true.

It is. Both evolution and survival are a kind of race.
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LOL, that's a secret, mate. The official reasons are better for our reputation
I thought the main reason was to create a country where the US cannot send spies. They can’t learn the language at home.

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Old 18.05.2018, 13:00
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Re: Right to refuse "break-in"

Already used in WWII, in my country people were asked to say "scheveningen". None of the Germans could say that correctly
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Already used in WWII, in my country people were asked to say "scheveningen". None of the Germans could say that correctly
Goes back even further:

"Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth: and he said Sibboleth: for he could not pronounce it right. Then they took him, and slew him at the fords of Jordan: and there fell at that time of the Ephraimites forty and two thousand."

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It is. Both evolution and survival are a kind of race.
So is dating.
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Already used in WWII, in my country people were asked to say "scheveningen". None of the Germans could say that correctly
Ahhh, I got great memories of Scheveningen
Guess it has changed a lot since then though. No ferris wheel in those times.

Enschede they never get right either
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Re: Right to refuse "break-in"

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You have some very strange misconceptions about the English language.

Vacuum cleaners produce a partial vacuum, via a centrifugal fan (or by witchcraft, in the case of Dyson vacuum cleaners). You can call them "partial vacuum cleaners" if you like, but that would be clumsy and stupid.
You may have strange conceptions about languages in general. A partial vacuum does not exist. Vacuum is related to "void".

In science, it makes sense to be pragmatic and ignore marginal differences as we can’t create a perfect vacuum.

However, we can go to the outer space.

The intergalactic space contains 10(−6) molecules (1 / 1,000,000) per cc. The interplanetary space contains about 11 molecules per cc.

The vacuum cleaner contains 10(19) molecules per cc. The atmosphere contains 2.5 * 10(19) molecules.

You either cannot call the space a vacuum, or you have to call the vacuum cleaner an atmospheric cleaner.

It’s your choice. At least, if you are living on planet Earth.

If you are living on a supermassive black hole, you can call the space a vacuum, and the same time, you can call that machine a vacuum cleaner as well, regardless of whether it sucks or blows the air.

As for the species vs. race, I know the biological definition. But it’s not the daily use of the word. Before you argue, I suggest you find an explanation why Google has 23,500,000 results for the human race. It’s still 16 million if you put it in quotes.
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You may have strange conceptions about languages in general. A partial vacuum does not exist. Vacuum is related to "void".

In science, it makes sense to be pragmatic and ignore marginal differences as we can’t create a perfect vacuum.

However, we can go to the outer space.

The intergalactic space contains 10(−6) molecules (1 / 1,000,000) per cc. The interplanetary space contains about 11 molecules per cc.

The vacuum cleaner contains 10(19) molecules per cc. The atmosphere contains 2.5 * 10(19) molecules.

You either cannot call the space a vacuum, or you have to call the vacuum cleaner an atmospheric cleaner.

It’s your choice. At least, if you are living on planet Earth.

If you are living on a supermassive black hole, you can call the space a vacuum, and the same time, you can call that machine a vacuum cleaner as well, regardless of whether it sucks or blows the air.

As for the species vs. race, I know the biological definition. But it’s not the daily use of the word. Before you argue, I suggest you find an explanation why Google has 23,500,000 results for the human race. It’s still 16 million if you put it in quotes.
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...... Before you argue, I suggest you find an explanation why Google has 23,500,000 results for the human race. It’s still 16 million if you put it in quotes.
Something wrong with your google. I get 1’120’000’000 results.
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Re: Right to refuse "break-in"

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Vacuum cleaners are not tubes. In the case of the small versions that you drag around the house, there is a long tube connecting the brush head to the vacuum-generator and dust bag, but the cleaner itself is not a tube.
I hope I won’t make you cry.

The definition of the tube is not "something freaking long compared to its diameter".

A definition of the tube is: "a hollow, usually cylindrical body of metal, glass, rubber, or other material, used especially for conveying or containing liquids or gases".

If you look at the photos of vacuum tubes, you will see a few that has almost the same length as its diameter.

The body of the vacuum cleaner is a tube.

I have a bad news for you. Your body is also a tube. Even more, after you eat the food, it is still outside your body.

I don’t learn much here today. Better I go to work.

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You may have strange conceptions about languages in general. A partial vacuum does not exist. Vacuum is related to "void".

In science, it makes sense to be pragmatic and ignore marginal differences as we can’t create a perfect vacuum.

However, we can go to the outer space.

The intergalactic space contains 10(−6) molecules (1 / 1,000,000) per cc. The interplanetary space contains about 11 molecules per cc.

The vacuum cleaner contains 10(19) molecules per cc. The atmosphere contains 2.5 * 10(19) molecules.

You either cannot call the space a vacuum, or you have to call the vacuum cleaner an atmospheric cleaner.

It’s your choice. At least, if you are living on planet Earth.

If you are living on a supermassive black hole, you can call the space a vacuum, and the same time, you can call that machine a vacuum cleaner as well, regardless of whether it sucks or blows the air.

As for the species vs. race, I know the biological definition. But it’s not the daily use of the word. Before you argue, I suggest you find an explanation why Google has 23,500,000 results for the human race. It’s still 16 million if you put it in quotes.
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I. Have. No. Words.
Rubbish, you've at least 4 of them.

(But yes, most of her posts banjax me too.)
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Something wrong with your google. I get 1’120’000’000 results.
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Rubbish, you've at least 4 of them.

(But yes, most of her posts banjax me too.)
My new favorite word.

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Something wrong with your google. I get 1’120’000’000 results.
Indeed. Something wrong with her google. That's the problem here.
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Old 18.05.2018, 13:50
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For those of you who didn´t know the word either

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/banjax
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