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Why would I?

I won’t.

If you are interested, I can tell you in this thread how many days it took me to find the next flat, from the first phone call (about the first flat I will consider) to the point when the contract is signed.

But this will be months from now due to the surgeries. It’s likely no one would remember or be interested.
So, rather than allow the landlord in to replace the heating system, you would prefer to move? Or was the move on the cards before all this? And the move is being postponed due to the surgery?

It's not clear from your post.
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If you insist on moving I suggest you up your budget and look to rent a house where you are the only tenant. That way it's only you and the landlord/agency who have to come to some agreement when there's major work to be done rather than having other tenants involved too all trying to come up with a mutually acceptable date.
This is a good idea, and it’s likely similar to what I will do, but:

1. A house in the style I would like to rent my next flat would be a bit too pricey.

2. I would be afraid in the evenings and nights when I’m alone.

I found a few great looking and modern houses where there are only two or three flats inside. They are outside the city. I want something silent but close to the lake.

The flats that are in the style I like start from 150 sqm and 3-4 rooms. This is a waste. For me, two rooms would be enough of the same quality. And a garden would be great.

Anyway, I don’t think such flats have public visits. That’s why I’m not so worried.
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Old 07.11.2017, 13:28
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If I wouldn’t get a flat only because the new landlord learns this is not okay for me, it saves me from a lot of trouble in the long-term.
Or more likely causes you a lot of trouble in the long-term. Given that the odds of a similar situation ever occurring again are slim to none (a landlord arranging days that he won't budge on, coinciding with days that you won't budge on), a prospective new landlord would likely just think 'Uh-oh. Red flag. Potential drama queen nightmare*. Better to rent to one of the other countless applicants..'




*not that you are one, but the landlord might think so
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So, rather than allow the landlord in to replace the heating system, you would prefer to move? Or was the move on the cards before all this? And the move is being postponed due to the surgery?

It's not clear from your post.
Yes, I would move anyway.

When I came here, I was in "survival mode". It took me ten months to find any flat that they gave me. You can imagine. Still, there were many reasons to like it until the new landlord (company) came.

If moving away was not in my plans before, it would be now.

(Considering my first flat took me ten months to get, I find it funny when people try to warn me about difficulties.)

PS: I didn’t consider it for a second I would let them in when I’m not home. I thought this was clear.

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Or more likely causes you a lot of trouble in the long-term. Given that the odds of a similar situation ever occurring again are slim to none (a landlord arranging days that he won't budge on, coinciding with days that you won't budge on), a prospective new landlord would likely just think 'Uh-oh. Red flag. Potential drama queen nightmare*. Better to rent to one of the other countless applicants..'
This is 100% true about the flats where there are 50-100 applicants. The landlord choose the least "unkompliziert" one. Gosh, how much I hate this word.

I believe there are flats that are less easy to rent out, but then it’s easier to ask the tenants when they are fine with a huge repair.

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*not that you are one, but the landlord might think so
You didn’t write anything offending. I know you are right, except for I believe certain flats are more flexible. The first thing I will ask the new landlord is how often they cut the grass and how noisy machines they use because I can’t work or sleep in a noise. When I find a place where it’s okay to ask this, it will be also okay there to tell the landlord if the repairs should be on another day. Which doesn’t happen often as I’m almost always free.

But, in this flat:

* I’ve always paid on time
* It never was a problem for me when they wanted to come in, until now
* I belong to the 10% of the tenants who are able to use the book in the basement in which one should note when one uses the washing machines
* I might be the only one who frees up the washing machines as soon as the laundry is done. (We don’t have dedicated days but there is a book people should use)
* An old-timer Swiss neighbor told me I was the most normal person in this flat. Another old-timer Swiss neighbor is the one with whom I’ll stay in touch even if I move

I’m sensitive only for my privacy and peace. This shouldn’t be a such a big deal in this country.

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Re: Right to refuse "break-in"

I've just wasted a full lunch time reading this thread and I still don't know what's in the apartment.
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Old 07.11.2017, 14:11
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But, in this flat:

* I’ve always paid on time
* It never was a problem for me when they wanted to come in, until now
* I belong to the 10% of the tenants who are able to use the book in the basement in which one should note when one uses the washing machines
* I might be the only one who frees up the washing machines as soon as the laundry is done. (We don’t have dedicated days but there is a book people should use)
* An old-timer Swiss neighbor told me I was the most normal person in this flat. Another old-timer Swiss neighbor is the one with whom I’ll stay in touch even if I move
Laudable indeed but unfortunately these are things which a prospective new landlord may not be overly impressed by. One landlord would hardly tell another 'Wow, this lady always entered her name in the laundry list; ideal new tenant for your flat". Irritating the landlord in any way is more likely to be considered relevant.
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If you are interested, I can tell you in this thread how many days it took me to find the next flat, from the first phone call (about the first flat I will consider) to the point when the contract is signed.

But this will be months from now due to the surgeries. It’s likely no one would remember or be interested.
We will
But I am more interested how this affair with your current landlord will work out in the end.
Wish you good luck with apartment hunting. But it looks like you are interested in properties which will need "Vitamin B" has they are rarely offered on the public marked.
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But I am more interested how this affair with your current landlord will work out in the end.
Wish you good luck with apartment hunting. But it looks like you are interested in properties which will need "Vitamin B" has they are rarely offered on the public marked.
They just informed me how much they think it would cost me to not let them in.

What does the Vitamin B idiom mean?

I didn’t mean any trick. I think I will pick one from one of the usual websites, and call the contact.

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What does the Vitamin B idiom mean?
In English you would properly say Vitamain C, C as in Connections (Beziehungen). Most of the real gems will get its new tenant because someone knew someone which was looking for something. At work, in the family, in Vereine, etc. The more people you know the easier it gets. Those are apartments were the former tenant was in for years, always good relationship with the landlord and they are not leaving because there are issues.
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Why would I?
Because that's what normal, sane people do.

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no idea what this thread is all about
Prostitution.

And earthworms.
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Because that's what normal, sane people do.

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Interesting. People who meet me don’t call me insane. They tend to call me lucky. I find the latter much more offending than the former. Understanding cognitive dissonance helps a bit but it’s still getting old.
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Re: Right to refuse "break-in"

Didn´t you call a lot of the people here retards?
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In English you would properly say Vitamain C, C as in Connections (Beziehungen). Most of the real gems will get its new tenant because someone knew someone which was looking for something. At work, in the family, in Vereine, etc. The more people you know the easier it gets. Those are apartments were the former tenant was in for years, always good relationship with the landlord and they are not leaving because there are issues.
Thank you. Google didn’t help. I though there was some problem with these flats that’s why they needed vitamins.

Some people would say “through your network”. I like the vitamin B more.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. I know someone Swiss with decent jobs, high reputation, long-term unkompliziert rent. She tried to get a flat for me in the same house she was living. The flats were three times larger for about half of the price of mine. The landlord promised her to give her the next one. And he didn’t. And this happened again. It was not about me as they didn’t even get to the point to describe me.

It was disappointing to wait for nothing. I didn’t even ask her to do this.

I know it helps most of the time.

But the flat I might looking for is likely on the public market. When I wrote maybe there won’t be public visits I meant something else than vitamin B.
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Didn´t you call a lot of the people here retards?
My definition of offending depends on whether a statement is true or not.
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I define prostitution as doing something I don’t want to do only for benefits and possible consequences.
Oh dear, I'm a prostitute. I pay taxes, look for parking spaces when there are so many free ones for disabled people, slow down when I see a traffic-control even though I'm in such a good flow at 130km/h .... all things I don't really want to do

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This is 100% true about the flats where there are 50-100 applicants. The landlord choose the least "unkompliziert" one. Gosh, how much I hate this word.......
sorry, no such luck for you. They will take the least kompliziert or the most unkompliziert one.

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My definition of offending depends on whether a statement is true or not.
So we're all retards. And - folks - it's true!

Fun thread ..... I still think it's a troll. It's gotta be?!
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My definition of offending depends on whether a statement is true or not.
So, it's only offending if it's true?

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So, it's only offending if it's true?

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Stupidity is
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They just informed me how much they think it would cost me to not let them in.
So, do tell, please.
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