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Smell from shower drain

Hi all,

I have a small/smell problem with the shower drain in the flat I am renting.
Basically, it dries out pretty quickly - I would say 3/4 hrs. This creates a direct "connection" with the septic/sewer with the consequent smell that you can imagine.

I supect the venting mechanism might have been poorly designed.

Before I escalate this to the landlord to get it fixed, anything else I could try myself to sort this out?

Note:
- The pipes are not clogged, the water flows down pretty quickly;
- I live on 3rd floor in a 5 floors building;
- I also tried to use some chemical products to mitigate the smell. It didn't solve the problem.

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Re: Smell from shower drain

If the cover comes off without tools try cleaning out the trap mechanism in the shower, and sink, then call your landlord.

I've seen them dry out through evaporation, but not within 3-4 hours. Even if the vent pipe above you is only partially blocked, the P trap should work, so it may be a cracked trap.
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Re: Smell from shower drain

Thanks Jag, however I do not think that's the way to go, in fact the trap mechanism is clean. And because the trap is clean, the only place where the bad smell can come from, is the central sewer.

Now that I think about it a little bit more...
Sometimes I can hear the gurgling sound typical of something that is draining ("Gluuug gluuug").
Given this sound, I think the central/building vent stack might be closed/obstructed, which creates the vacuum causing the gurgling sound.

I will get in contact with the landlord and also check with the other people in the building to see if anyone is facing the same issue.

In the meantime, other suggestions are welcome.

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Basically, it dries out pretty quickly - I would say 3/4 hrs.
What Jag says. It is very unlikely that the siphon will dry out in that short of time. It must be a leak.

The thing has normally no movable parts (apart from water ) You hear "Gluuug gluuug" sounds when the water level in the siphon makes barely a seal.
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Thanks Jag, however I do not think that's the way to go, in fact the trap mechanism is clean. And because the trap is clean, the only place where the bad smell can come from, is the central sewer.

Now that I think about it a little bit more...
Sometimes I can hear the gurgling sound typical of something that is draining ("Gluuug gluuug").
Given this sound, I think the central/building vent stack might be closed/obstructed, which creates the vacuum causing the gurgling sound.

I will get in contact with the landlord and also check with the other people in the building to see if anyone is facing the same issue.

In the meantime, other suggestions are welcome.

Thanks
Bad piping or another problem elsewhere is highly likely to be the cause, could even be that if a neighbour flushes his toilet that due to vacuum forces your sewer gets sucked empty, cannot be judged from this forum without seeing the actual situation, so take this up with your landlord and let him send a plumber to overview the situation.
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Re: Smell from shower drain

funnily enough we had that problem last week. The shower is only years old, the smell only appeared a month back. took the drain "bits" out ( 2 pieces that clip back in), cleaned them an placed them back again. Still a strong sewage pong came out.


Finally had the installer come by, he took out the pieces and noticed that the first bit that goes in had in fact been put back by my OH...upside down. Since then, no more stinkynes!
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funnily enough we had that problem last week. The shower is only years old, the smell only appeared a month back. took the drain "bits" out ( 2 pieces that clip back in), cleaned them an placed them back again. Still a strong sewage pong came out.


Finally had the installer come by, he took out the pieces and noticed that the first bit that goes in had in fact been put back by my OH...upside down. Since then, no more stinkynes!
I guess your OH must have been the one living in my flat just before I came in.
In fact I took a closer look at how the pieces were mounted together and realized the "middle" one was upside down.

Now I put it in the right direction and everything looks much more sealed all together.
I believe the issue should be solved now.

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I guess your OH must have been the one living in my flat just before I came in.
In fact I took a closer look at how the pieces were mounted together and realized the "middle" one was upside down.

Now I put it in the right direction and everything looks much more sealed all together.
I believe the issue should be solved now.

Thanks RM.
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Thanks Jag, however I do not think that's the way to go, in fact the trap mechanism is clean. And because the trap is clean, the only place where the bad smell can come from, is the central sewer.

Now that I think about it a little bit more...
Sometimes I can hear the gurgling sound typical of something that is draining ("Gluuug gluuug").
Given this sound, I think the central/building vent stack might be closed/obstructed, which creates the vacuum causing the gurgling sound.

I will get in contact with the landlord and also check with the other people in the building to see if anyone is facing the same issue.
We are having the same issue. In this instance, who has to pay for a professional to take a look? Us or the landlord? Thanks!
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We are having the same issue. In this instance, who has to pay for a professional to take a look? Us or the landlord? Thanks!
In my case, I had to pay (I received the bill from the plumbing company through the landlord) but you might be smarter than what I was and clarify this upfront with your landlord.

Side note: the issue in my case has come back, so unfortunately it was not related to the filter being mounted incorrectly but I believe itís something wrong with the central design of the building that cannot even be solved by the plumbers. In fact they came and they said nothing was wrong; then a month later they started to do maintenance works on the roof; then after the maintenance works the issue is still there.

When I come back into the flat after 2-3 days, itís disgusting
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Re: Smell from shower drain

We had a similar problem with our flat in UK - so now we clingfilm the WCs and close the lid, and fit covers to bath and shower outlet and sinks. It stops evaporation, and since then we have had no problem, even after a couple of months of hot weather,

So perhaps you could ensure you fill shower outlet, with a bit of bleach, and get a cover that fits well.
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It's what one can't smell that can hurt!
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...arbon-monoxide
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Re: Smell from shower drain

Check all the other traps in the flat as well. Could be that's where the smell is coming from as they can be linked together by pipework. I had a smell coming from my upstairs washbasin the cause of which was an unused bath in our guest bedroom - from which there was no smell. Ran the taps and all was fine.
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Re: Smell from shower drain

We had a similar problem with the traps gurgling. I put a load of drain cleaner granules in the toilet and after a day when it was flushed everything was fine again.
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Re: Smell from shower drain

We had the same issue, but then we realized that after cleaner the drainage we were not closing the drainage hole assembly properly, it has three different pieces and it seems one creates a seal which prevent smell from drainage pipes below. If you have similar mechanism then just check if you can press it a bit further down to ensure a proper seal. Also, check the exhaust vent filters are clean

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Hi all,

I have a small/smell problem with the shower drain in the flat I am renting.
Basically, it dries out pretty quickly - I would say 3/4 hrs. This creates a direct "connection" with the septic/sewer with the consequent smell that you can imagine.

I supect the venting mechanism might have been poorly designed.

Before I escalate this to the landlord to get it fixed, anything else I could try myself to sort this out?

Note:
- The pipes are not clogged, the water flows down pretty quickly;
- I live on 3rd floor in a 5 floors building;
- I also tried to use some chemical products to mitigate the smell. It didn't solve the problem.

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If you havenít joined the tenants association, do so. Landlords listen to them.
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Re: Smell from shower drain

Is the problem persistent or intermittent.

My parents in law had something similar in their appartment. It turned out the landlord knew there was some problem with blockages and rather than call a plumber, he thought he could proactively avoid the problem by cleaning out the main sewer of the building with a pressure hose on a regular basis.

What he didn't realize was that the pressure was actually pushing sewage back up the side pipes and possibly even into the traps. Eventually it would get flushed back down again but it caused a bad smell for a few days every time, especially around installations such as guest bathrooms that were not used or flushed regularly.
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