Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Housing in general
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12.02.2018, 21:00
newtoswitz's Avatar
Forum Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Rapperswil
Posts: 2,223
Groaned at 34 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 2,497 Times in 1,163 Posts
newtoswitz has a reputation beyond reputenewtoswitz has a reputation beyond reputenewtoswitz has a reputation beyond reputenewtoswitz has a reputation beyond reputenewtoswitz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Fitting wood burning stoves into existing fireplace

Certainly seems to be a requirement for a permit in Zurich.

"There is a permit requirement for all heat engineering systems."


It doesn't say anything about inspection of the system after installation, but maybe that is a condition of the permit if an authorised fitter isn't used.
Reply With Quote
Old 13.02.2018, 10:30
eng_ch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Up where the air is clear
Posts: 1,442
Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 1,268 Times in 673 Posts
eng_ch has a reputation beyond reputeeng_ch has a reputation beyond reputeeng_ch has a reputation beyond reputeeng_ch has a reputation beyond reputeeng_ch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Fitting wood burning stoves into existing fireplace

View Post
I recall that many people have said the same about DIY electrical work, but so far no-one had been able to provide a source to support the idea. It's clear that building/instalation regulations exist, and that an official inspection can be requested (one was done by the vendor of the chalet we've just bought, for example, and some remedial work performed by a certified professional) but it seems that there's no absolute requirement for a bricoleur to do so.

So is it different for stove installations? As I commented above, the availability of fixtures and fittings from Swiss DIY shops indicates otherwise and I've seen and heard nothing (apart from your post) to suggest that I need to get my new installation independantly inspected. So I haven't felt the need, so far, to do what you suggest (in red) above. Please feel free to enlighten me, as I would really like to know if I'm wrong.

"Am 1. Januar 2015 wurden die materiell einheitlichen Schweizerischen Brandschutzvorschriften der Vereinigung Kantonaler Feuerversicherungen (VKF) in Kraft gesetzt."

The Swiss Fire Prevention Regulations of the Association of Cantonal Fire Insurers, which are standardised in all material aspects, came into force on 1 January 2015.

Basically check out your local cantonal buildings insurance website (fire prevention comes under their remit here in GR). Under these regulations any change to any heating unit - and that includes swapping out an old fire for a new one - requires a permit, and that in turn usually involves an inspection of the finished implementation. Without the permit, your property would not be insured against fire risks. Whether that applies to installations pre-2015 I don't know, but that's another reason to talk to a pro - it's their job to know the regulations.

When we renovated last year, we changed out an old inefficient and f'ugly wood-burning Kachelofen for a modern pellet stove, which was inspected one year ago today. We looked into DIY because we're pretty handy but came to the conclusion we'd avoid a huge headache by getting the pro to fit it. For Fr 1000 he made a new hole into the existing flue (the stove required a direct vertical run of at least 1.5 m, which the existing hole didn't provide), installed the fire, lodged all the paperwork with the canton authorities, and paid for the inspection. Plus we had recourse against someone if something was incorrectly executed, which turns it into a form of insurance.

We could have done the work ourselves, but it would have taken us much longer and it would have taken me several days to research the requirements. Moreover, remember this is Switzerland - the inspector is much more likely to rubber-stamp work by someone who's been in the business for years or is his mucker from school than from some stray foreigner. For instance, one requirement is to have a non-flammable material on the floor for at least 40 cm out from the door opening - even with a unit that switches itself off if you open the door. By getting the local pro to do the work, the inspection was very much "oh yes, that looks fine". If we'd done it, you can guarantee the tape measure would have been out (and in fact on one angle, it's actually more like 39 cm not 40).

Long story short: yes it's possible to DIY but we came to the conclusion that it was more work than it was worth.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank eng_ch for this useful post:

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pellet or Wood burning stove ? Mikers Housing in general 15 27.01.2017 20:39
Wood for burning gio74 Daily life 16 24.10.2012 23:00
wood burning fireplace insert????? Jin0212 Other/general 1 11.01.2012 20:01
Wood burning boilers - how much?? bigblue2 Housing in general 3 01.10.2010 09:29
[Zurich] Wood for the fireplace marchise Other/general 2 17.09.2010 17:52

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:17.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0