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Landlord dispute- who to contact?

My son and his roommates (all students) are being charged close to 2400 CHF to replace a bathtub by the landlord. This was only used once by a subletter. In any event, the bill does not specify damaged property (i.e. dryrot, broken fixture, etc.) I have a hard time believing that tenants should be responsible for a tub (or a sink, or roof, or oven, for that matter). Is this basic maintenance and upkeep charge routine in Switzerland and if not, who can he contact to argue against the charges?

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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

The tenant’s association (D: Mieterverband; F: ASLOCA)
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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

If the students were renting, they should have taken out (or at least one of them) a 3rd party insurance policy that is normally required to be able to rent an apt. This insurance would cover issues like this.

Start with that question.

Does the sub-letter have insurance? Worth asking the question.

The link, in French, for ASLOCA Lausanne is: http://www.asloca.ch/vaud/lausanne/

Asloca is going to want photos of the bathtub when they go for a consultation (which is going to cost them since they are claiming right after they sign up).
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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

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I have a hard time believing that tenants should be responsible for a tub (or a sink, or roof, or oven, for that matter).
If it's normal wear and tear, then no, but if they broke it, then yes.

Why is it hard to believe?

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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

Surely before you contact anyone you simply ask what the damage was?

That should have been on the handover sheet - which I hope you have a copy of? If not, then ask for a copy of that as well.
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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

Why did it get replaced, what was broken?

You can easily break it without using it, for instance drop a glass-bottled deodorant from shoulder height. That's how I once broke the ceramic sink, and that drop was only half a meter or so.
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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

This is only half the story, you need to know why it had to be replaced and did this happen after they stopped renting the apartment?

Also If the bathtub is 20 years old and was supposed to last let's say 30 years they only have to pay 1/3 of the expenses.

And a tenant is responsible for everything that shows damage above normal wear and tear.
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This is only half the story, you need to know why it had to be replaced and did this happen after they stopped renting the apartment?

Also If the bathtub is 20 years old and was supposed to last let's say 30 years they only have to pay 1/3 of the expenses.

And a tenant is responsible for everything that shows damage above normal wear and tear.
Good point.

A traditional bathtub (steel with enamel) is 35 years. An acrylic one is 25 years.

Link in FR: http://asloca-romande.ch/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tabelle_avertissement.pdf (section 8)

We still do not know the whole story. Who did what and what was the result. The OP or rather his son should fill in the blanks rather than us just guessing.

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Re: Landlord dispute- who to contact?

As someone already said, they should have an insurance which would cover this.

However, it also depends on the age of what was broken. If it's older than a certain amount, for example a wooden floor is 20 years, then the insurance will not pay out.

Also, if it's a chip on a ceramic bath then it can be repaired quite cheaply. The landlord cannot expect to get a brand new tub if the existing one is an old one.

Basic maintenance and wear and tear are very different from damage, which is down to your son, so it really depends on how big is the damage, old old is the tub etc.
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