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Houses with gardens

Hello everyone,

So we are looking at moving to Switzerland early next year. My OH's family lives in Basel and sadly with the South African economy moving into a swift decline we have made the decision to move to Europe.

My question is: we have done some simple research into housing as we would need at least a 2 bedroom with a garden for our furkids. Can anyone recommend areas for us that are not millions of CHF to rent? We are looking at Basel/Freibourg and then Lugano and Zurich areas (potential employment in these areas.

Would also love advise on close to the countryside within a decent distance of stables (I am a horse rider sadly selling my horses in SA) as would like to get back into show jumping when we are settled.

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Re: Houses with gardens

Do you have Swiss Citizenship? If yes, you can choose freely in which canton to live. If no, then you will have to get a work permit (that's a story in itself), and if you get one, then you will be granted permission to live in only that same canton in which the employment is domiciled.

I think it's great that you're looking around, and learning about your options.
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Re: Houses with gardens

If you want to ask questions and get answers that will actually help you then we need to know what nationality you and the family hold. Swiss/EU nationals can move here without problems, but non-EU's can't. It's as simple as that. If you're all non-EU's then without a pre-approved job offer giving you a permit to live/work here it simply won't happen.
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If you want to ask questions and get answers that will actually help you then we need to know what nationality you and the family hold. Swiss/EU nationals can move here without problems, but non-EU's can't. It's as simple as that. If you're all non-EU's then without a pre-approved job offer giving you a permit to live/work here it simply won't happen.
Why you do you need to know that? It's not relevant to the question she is asking.

She wants to know about houses with a garden around Basel.


CheandDom, there are mostly apartments. But as you say, you will need to go further out of the cities.

Have you looked already at homegate.ch and comparis? What is you budget?
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Re: Houses with gardens

Good morning

One of us is a Swiss passport holder (swiss citizenship) and the other a British passport holder (for the moment EU unless brexit happens before mid next year). The reason we are looking at Basel is because my OH's parents live there...
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Why you do you need to know that? It's not relevant to the question she is asking.

She wants to know about houses with a garden around Basel.


CheandDom, there are mostly apartments. But as you say, you will need to go further out of the cities.

Have you looked already at homegate.ch and comparis? What is you budget?
Of course, it's relevant. Unless you think just anyone can move here. Just because they have family living here doesn't mean they're Swiss/EU.

Still should be easy now we know, although you do realise Brexit happens at the end of March 2019.

Various websites to have a look at:

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

For private rentals, i.e. not through an agency:

www.petitesannonces.ch
www.anibis.ch
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Old 14.09.2018, 09:01
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Re: Houses with gardens

Plenty around Lugano, but not cheap.

AG is much cheaper, my daughter paid the same for a house with garden there as we did for an apartment here, and our apartment was cheap by Lugano standards.

Also, public transport sucks in Ticino in general, and much less chance of finding a job than up north.

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Of course, it's relevant. Unless you think just anyone can move here. Just because they have family living here doesn't mean they're Swiss/EU.
It's not relevant, it would be relevant had she asked how do I get a permit for Switzerland, which she didn't.

And just because they don't mention it right away, doesn't mean that they are not.

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Still should be easy now we know, although you do realise Brexit happens at the end of March 2019.

Various websites to have a look at:

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

For private rentals, i.e. not through an agency:

www.petitesannonces.ch
www.anibis.ch
Thank you so very much, gives me more places to have a look at. We are planning to get there in March, so need to start moving on the relocation front.
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Re: Houses with gardens

Here in Kanton Luzern, leaving the furkids in the apartment garden all day long is generally looked down upon. As is their nature, they prefer to run wild in the forest and along riparian buffer zones while scavenging for berries and edible invertebrates.

My darling Heideli, all ready for swiss Primarschule:

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Good morning

One of us is a Swiss passport holder (swiss citizenship) and the other a British passport holder (for the moment EU unless brexit happens before mid next year). The reason we are looking at Basel is because my OH's parents live there...
Hey, super! This is excellent news! I'm really glad for you that you've got the right passports. That means you really are free to choose in which canton to live. The reason you were asked those questions is because many newbies here simply don't realise that they would be bound to the canton of their work permit. You are free from that restraint.
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This leaflet "Returning to Switzerland - Swiss Citizens Living Abroad" might be useful:

https://www.eda.admin.ch/dam/eda/en/...hweizer_EN.pdf

Also the website "Organisation of Swiss Abroad" has useful information:

https://www.aso.ch/en/consultation/back-to-switzerland
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Oberwil has a good selection of homes with gardens. Is pretty good for dog walking too. Plus good transport links/ amenities.
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Of course, it's relevant. Unless you think just anyone can move here. Just because they have family living here doesn't mean they're Swiss/EU.

Still should be easy now we know, although you do realise Brexit happens at the end of March 2019.

Various websites to have a look at:

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

For private rentals, i.e. not through an agency:

www.petitesannonces.ch
www.anibis.ch
Actually it's not. You are not the one who will decide and she didn't come here to ask you if she can.
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Re: Houses with gardens

I agree that Aargau is a good place if you are looking for affordable houses with gardens. That is, affordable by Swiss standards. You may still be shocked when you see the pricetag. You're within commuting distance of both Basel and Zürich and there are also quite a few jobs locally, including with big companies like ABB. Also lots of forests and meadows and things if you love nature.

The down side is that it is, well, Aargau. Public transport sucks (although your mileage may vary) and there isn't that much to do locally if the village Stammtisch isn't your thing. Lots of people come into Zürich for the entertainment. Potentially integration can be more difficult in a small Aargau vilage than it is in a big city like Zürich, so you would have to try a little harder.

But that said, there are pockets of nice housing everywhere, and yuu can get lucky everywhere, so keep your options open and don't restrict your search unnecessarily.
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I agree that Aargau is a good place if you are looking for affordable houses with gardens. That is, affordable by Swiss standards. You may still be shocked when you see the pricetag. You're within commuting distance of both Basel and Zürich and there are also quite a few jobs locally, including with big companies like ABB. Also lots of forests and meadows and things if you love nature.

The down side is that it is, well, Aargau. Public transport sucks (although your mileage may vary) and there isn't that much to do locally if the village Stammtisch isn't your thing. Lots of people come into Zürich for the entertainment. Potentially integration can be more difficult in a small Aargau vilage than it is in a big city like Zürich, so you would have to try a little harder.

But that said, there are pockets of nice housing everywhere, and yuu can get lucky everywhere, so keep your options open and don't restrict your search unnecessarily.
Thank you, this is much appreciated. Both if us enjoy the outdoor country life and are both very active. Our dogs will be coming with us so forests etc are great for long runs.

Just need to land those jobs now that we have some more info and more things to look into this weekend.
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One thing to keep in mind is that a garden is not necessarily fenced. So if a fence is important be sure to include this in your wish list.

Also, you might be responsible for all of the garden maintenance or just some of it. Best to clarify this as well.

Good luck with your search. One thing is certain, finding a rental with large dogs can be a challenge.
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Gardens and Switzerland. Somehow does not go together-for the majority of the Swiss. They have to be content with a balcony or maybe " Schrebergarten"

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...schrebergarten

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Thank you everyone for all of your advice.
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Re: Houses with gardens

I would try to find employment first before settling in permanently.

So, find something temporary that is more or less "OK-ish" and then look for something better when you're here and know where you work.

It's also good to not needing to limit your job-search to a specific area.
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