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Pay last rental month with owner doing renovations for the next tenant

if the owners do renovations for the next tenants during last month of my contract, do you think it is fair to pay that month? I was already not living there as I moved before. I also gave the key to the owner for that purpose and they told me that we would arrange it somehow although the contract ended that month. Now they ask for the full month? if they do renovations and so on, do I have some right here? I think is totally unfair.
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if the owners do renovations for the next tenants during last month of my contract, do you think it is fair to pay that month? I was already not living there as I moved before. I also gave the key to the owner for that purpose and they told me that we would arrange it somehow although the contract ended that month. Now they ask for the full month? if they do renovations and so on, do I have some right here? I think is totally unfair.
You should not have given up the flat early as you had to pay until the last day in any case.
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Clear agreements on paper had to be made upfront, now there's nothing you can do.
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Re: Pay last rental month with owner doing renovations for the next tenant

We just agreed to pay the half. Next week during the key handover I think best to bring a paper with this statement and do the signatures. I gave one key some months ago to check the new renovations and I did not give the full keys before because they were on holidays.
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do I have some right here?


As per Mietrecht, you are entitled to a reduction of the rent, if considerable renovations take place.
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...enovation.html
But the request in written should be done before the renovation ends, and in your case a bit more difficult to argument as you agreed to it in advance obviously handing over the keys, plus you're not present anyway, which makes it difficult to pretend your are "disturbed". You may still ask and your landlord might be a conciliant person? Wonders happen sometimes .
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Re: Pay last rental month with owner doing renovations for the next tenant

I have taken apartment on sublease for 4 months fixed term contract. Due to change in my assignment, I need to move out of Switzerland early (2 months early).


As per my agreement, I need to pay 1 month advance rent on/before 26th of early month.


I proposed another tenant, but agency refused it. Possible reason was proposed tenant was out side Switzerland and he does not had debt extraction report. Many tenant give up as landlord was asking debt extraction report with lot of if and buts for two months stay.


Now, landlady want me pay all future rent in advance before I move out of Switzerland. I am telling her that I will pay as per agreement. So have patience. I feel its fair.


Any implications?
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Can you clarify what you mean by "sublease" are you subletting the apartment from the tenant named on the contract or are you the actual tenant but on a short term lease?
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I have taken apartment on sublease for 4 months fixed term contract. Due to change in my assignment, I need to move out of Switzerland early (2 months early).


As per my agreement, I need to pay 1 month advance rent on/before 26th of early month.


I proposed another tenant, but agency refused it. Possible reason was proposed tenant was out side Switzerland and he does not had debt extraction report. Many tenant give up as landlord was asking debt extraction report with lot of if and buts for two months stay.


Now, landlady want me pay all future rent in advance before I move out of Switzerland. I am telling her that I will pay as per agreement. So have patience. I feel its fair.


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It is fair.

Will you come back for the hand-over though?
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It is fair.

Will you come back for the hand-over though?
Probably.. NO.. I will handover before leaving.. so that nothing is pending..
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Can you clarify what you mean by "sublease" are you subletting the apartment from the tenant named on the contract or are you the actual tenant but on a short term lease?

I have taken apartment from existing tenant. This existing tenant travelled outside Zurich for 4 months. So she sublet to me. Thanks
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Than why deal with the landlady/agency?

In the basics it is all very simple.

They may take some weeks to review a new person, if they deny them on non proper grounds and you can proof this you are of the hook from the date the new person would actually take over, if not you have to pay.

Not being able to show being without debts might be a proper ground. (not fully sure tho).
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I have taken apartment from existing tenant. This existing tenant travelled outside Zurich for 4 months. So she sublet to me. Thanks
If it were me then I would just continue to pay her as per the original agreement. Only if you don't pay as originally agreed will she be able to do anything to chase you up.

I guess she's just nervous that if you've left the country she won't see her money and will have no way of recovering it.

It's unlikely you're going to find someone to fill the room for the remaining 2 months.

Does she hold your deposit in a special account?
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If it were me then I would just continue to pay her as per the original agreement. Only if you don't pay as originally agreed will she be able to do anything to chase you up.

I guess she's just nervous that if you've left the country she won't see her money and will have no way of recovering it.

It's unlikely you're going to find someone to fill the room for the remaining 2 months.

Does she hold your deposit in a special account?
Well, She has repeated said this to me that she will need to chase for rent and I will vanish without paying it.


I even proposed her that I will pay full term rent and my colleague will takeover the apartment. Even this offer she rejected.


I was bit confused, when someone is paying full rent then why swiss people don't allow it?
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Well, She has repeated said this to me that she will need to chase for rent and I will vanish without paying it.
It's kind of understandable - once you leave the country you could just stop paying her. She could, of course, issue you with a debt notice which might cause you problems if you ever return to Switzerland. She can't do any of that, though, until you break the terms of your agreement and don't pay as per that.


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I even proposed her that I will pay full term rent and my colleague will takeover the apartment. Even this offer she rejected.
It sounds a hassle to her, I guess. There's someone new in the apartment whom she doesn't know, you will have left, who then does the handover? All that kind of stuff. To be fair, I'd be the same. For a period of 4 months, I would be pissed off if the tenant was mucking me about.

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I was bit confused, when someone is paying full rent then why swiss people don't allow it?
Not sure what being Swiss has got to do with it.
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If it were me then I would just continue to pay her as per the original agreement. Only if you don't pay as originally agreed will she be able to do anything to chase you up.

I guess she's just nervous that if you've left the country she won't see her money and will have no way of recovering it.

It's unlikely you're going to find someone to fill the room for the remaining 2 months.

Does she hold your deposit in a special account?
In Zürich it is not so hard to find somebody for 2 months, town has a constant influx of expats who would love a temporarily place from where they can start working and find a place for the long term. Look at the topics that come by here of people being in Airbnb's for the first weeks/months.

Problem now might be that they may take about 4 weeks to review a new candidate, which is likely to hardly leave any proper rental period left. If I were OP I'd just pay the rent, and have a colleague staying there a few weeks who pays me cash in hand. No law forbids having somebody a few weeks over.
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Probably.. NO.. I will handover before leaving.. so that nothing is pending..
Well, the rent will be pending.

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Well, She has repeated said this to me that she will need to chase for rent and I will vanish without paying it.


I even proposed her that I will pay full term rent and my colleague will takeover the apartment. Even this offer she rejected.


I was bit confused, when someone is paying full rent then why swiss people don't allow it?
I'm not surprise she doesn't want ANY random "friend of yours" living in her private space.

Somehow I don't see why you don't just pay the rent, hand over the place (the other way around in case there are discussions about the state of the place and also you could agree to you deducting the deposit) and go your way.
After all, you made a contract with her, I'm quiet sure you were happy to get that contract and now things for you changed ...... what if things for her had changed and she suggested tossing you out?).

If you feel, paying one month in advance is such a pain for you, you could theoretically agree on 2% Skonto. If that would make you happy?

Or you tell your boss, being shifted causes you extra costs, they should cover it.
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Well, the rent will be pending.


I'm not surprise she doesn't want ANY random "friend of yours" living in her private space.

Somehow I don't see why you don't just pay the rent, hand over the place (the other way around in case there are discussions about the state of the place and also you could agree to you deducting the deposit) and go your way.
After all, you made a contract with her, I'm quiet sure you were happy to get that contract and now things for you changed ...... what if things for her had changed and she suggested tossing you out?).

If you feel, paying one month in advance is such a pain for you, you could theoretically agree on 2% Skonto. If that would make you happy?

Or you tell your boss, being shifted causes you extra costs, they should cover it.


I agree with you on some points. I was willing to provide all required info including local references, employer contacts etc to build that confidence on new proposed tenants. Still application was rejected.


Its matter of 5K CHF and I am feeling disappointed because a good colleague was looking for apartment, willing to do all documentation to build confidence, and still got REJECTED...


Anyway, I have told her I will pay her full rent, handover apartment and walk away my way..


5K CHF is big amount in Asian country... And possibly every attempt should be made to protect it..
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5K CHF is big amount in Asian country... And possibly every attempt should be made to protect it..
It is and you did.

Sometimes life just takes it's turns and not everybody around you can bend with it.

Hope the sudden change of plans will take you to great places. All the best.
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Thanks... Hope for the best..


I have already published ad on 6 website.. so far no enquiry.. whatever came, as soon as they hear the terms and condition.. run away..


I think, I will try again.. if it works out then good.. else Pay and move on..
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