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Rents/m2 - Zürich & surrounds

I’ve recently arrived and considering where to settle in or near Zürich. I’m looking at various areas along the lake, Zug or Zürich itself.

Where can I find data on average rent/m2? Obviously each property is different, but I’m having difficulty getting an overview. People tell me for example that Zug is very expensive, but I have a hard time assessing whether it really is significantly more than say Thalwil. Or say what difference one can expect say as one goes further along the Zürichsee. Or different areas within Zürich itself.
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I’ve recently arrived and considering where to settle in or near Zürich. I’m looking at various areas along the lake, Zug or Zürich itself.

Where can I find data on average rent/m2? Obviously each property is different, but I’m having difficulty getting an overview. People tell me for example that Zug is very expensive, but I have a hard time assessing whether it really is significantly more than say Thalwil. Or say what difference one can expect say as one goes further along the Zürichsee. Or different areas within Zürich itself.
Hi,

I'm also looking for places to live in the same region so take these as a grain of salt:

1 - I remember seeing an article on 20 Minuten or from other online newspaper with an interactive map about rental prices but unfortunately I can't find it again. But it was about the average price for a 2/3/4 rooms, not per m^2.

2 - To me it seems that prices vary mostly with proximity to the city center, proximity to a main/hub station, desirability of neighborhood, and lake view (mainly!).

3 - That being said, regardless of 1- and 2- above, the best way to find a neighborhood to live in is to start from your work address, from there follow the transport map, and check the zip codes on homegate or comparis.

4 - In regard to Zug, I didn't find it much more expensive than Zürich or the silver coast. It seems to me (I might be wrong) that Zug is more expensive just in selected areas such as the lake, old town, and those luxury buildings. Anything further 1km or more from these points the rent will not be more expensive than Zürich (again, my impression).

5 - Consider the tax difference and transport costs. Someone on a 150k salary would save a good chunk of money by living in Zug, but someone on 80k and working in Zürich might conclude it's worth to stay in Zúrich.

Let me knwo how you research goes, I'm in the same boat.
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Old 21.11.2018, 17:42
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Re: Rents/m2 - Zürich & surrounds

Keep in mind that the tax efficient cities only will help you saving your taxes if you are Swiss/on a C permit?

For tax at source there is an average applied from that Kanton (again here with some exceptions, a.o. your level of salary)
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Keep in mind that the tax efficient cities only will help you saving your taxes if you are Swiss/on a C permit?

For tax at source there is an average applied from that Kanton (again here with some exceptions, a.o. your level of salary)
Or a married B.
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Keep in mind that the tax efficient cities only will help you saving your taxes if you are Swiss/on a C permit?

For tax at source there is an average applied from that Kanton (again here with some exceptions, a.o. your level of salary)
Seriously?

Please correct me if I am wrong:

1 - On B permit your taxes are withheld with your salary, whereas on C permit it don't.

2 - As a B permit holder these withheld taxes are calculated by the average, however after you do your tax return you will either pay or receive back the difference.

3 - Therefore B and C pay permit holders pay exactly the same taxes, the difference is that the C will pay only what he/she owns in the end of the year while the B permit will be pay/receive the difference to the average in the end of the year.

Am I wrong?
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Seriously?

Please correct me if I am wrong:

1 - On B permit your taxes are withheld with your salary, whereas on C permit it don't.

2 - As a B permit holder these withheld taxes are calculated by the average, however after you do your tax return you will either pay or receive back the difference.

3 - Therefore B and C pay permit holders pay exactly the same taxes, the difference is that the C will pay only what he/she owns in the end of the year while the B permit will be pay/receive the difference to the average in the end of the year.

Am I wrong?
1 Correct

2 Not everyone has to do a tax return. If you earn over a certain amount, yes. Below that, you can ask to do that but normally there is no requirement.

C permit holders can also get tax refunds.
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Re: Rents/m2 - Zürich & surrounds

Some types of permits require the person to live in the same canton as the place of employment. For anyone with such a permit, it is generally not permitted to, for example, work in Zurich but live in Zug, for example.

This rule does not apply to everyone, but it's best to check before you look for accommodation.

It is also possible to apply for special permission to live in a different canton.
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