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an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

So, turns out renting price for an apartment on top floor is little bit cheaper. However, as I've never lived on top floor, what are some pros and cons? Will it be hot during the summer? What about when it is raining? Is it noisy, right under the roof?

I am not familiar with the housing in Geneva, so I thought I will better ask these question here.
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So, turns out renting price for an apartment on top floor is little bit cheaper. However, as I've never lived on top floor, what are some pros and cons? Will it be hot during the summer? What about when it is raining? Is it noisy, right under the roof?

I am not familiar with the housing in Geneva, so I thought I will better ask these question here.
First time I hear top floor flats are cheaper. They used to be more expensive.

I spent my adult life in top floor flats (6 of them), for the first time ever I live on ground floor (I wanted that explicitly) and I NEVER WILL AGAIN when I move on!

However - noisy rain? Not that I remember. Then again, I kind of like the sound of rain. But seriously, nope I don't remember hearing it more than now.

Heat? Hmmm, only in one flat yes it got very hot during summer. But - while a wonderful flat - the building was really not very well built. In all the other flats: Nope. Not specially hot. I guess it depends on how they were built and I know nothing about Genevan houses. (They can't be all that different from the ones in the German part though ). The age doesn't seem to matter as I lived in several old builds and the hot one was new.

Apart from that? I vouch for top floor. It's quieter - if you have tramps living in the house a lot of their noise you won't hear on top. The view is better , if you got no elevator you stay healthy longer.

Should that lotto thing really not work out to get me a house in the middle of blooming nowhere it will be a topfloor flat for me again next time. At the moment only packing up and moving is worse than a ground-floor flat.

Oh and I never lived in the middle. I certainly never would
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

You found an apartment in Geneva?

Take it.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

Sightly surprised that you've found a top-floor that's cheaper than the lower floors as the pent-house is usually the more expensive option in any apartment building as being quieter and having the best views.
Might depend on exactly whereabouts in Geneva it is, and the state of the place.

From a practical point of view Curley had made several valid remarks... the top floor can be hot during the summer (and freezing during the winter), but to some extent that depends on how well insulated the building is. My own house could become uncomfortably hot upstairs during a heat-wave, but it's bearable with sensible use of fans and taking care to close windows/shutters, etc. during the day. Perfectly okay even during the worst of winters.
The 'noise' of rain falling on a roof is amazing, and always a relaxing sound to fall asleep to.
The best thing about the top floor is not having to suffer idiots stomping about above your heads whenever they feel like it, totally ignoring the rules and regulations that are supposed to restrict them causing you sleepless nights and disturbed days.

MusicChick's right; if you've actually found a place in Geneva you like and can afford (have you actually been offered it rather than just seen a place advertised?) I'd grab it with both hands.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

Depends on what kind of top floor in what kind of building.
New or old building? Is it one with sloppy ceilings? Or a top floor of a 'square' building.

Some of the top floors of old buildings with sloppy ceilings, visible beams and small or very high windows suck.

Having said that, if you've been offered it, take it. It could be a long time before you're offered another. And when you find another it shouldn't be difficult to get rid of this one if you don't like it.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

If the top is cheaper than the bottom than clearly something must be wrong with it (or you are comparing diff sized flats)
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

If there are a lot of roof windows you will hear the rain, which some peoole do not mind. If the windows do not have some kind of covering to block the sun in summer it could be very warm. The other problem is roof windows without rain sensors mean you have to be careful leaving them open when you are not home. The nice thing about roof windows is that you have a lot of privacy.

Other issues with the top floor is access if there is no lift and many flights of stairs to climb on a daily basis. For some this is not an issue. Moving in/out will could be more costly depending on the number of stairs.

If you have sloped ceilings you may be restricted with your choice of wardrobes. Are there any built in closets?

The size of the apartment may be advertised in a misleading way. The floor surface may be quite large, but officially you only count the floor surface which is at 150 cm or higher.

The top floor can offer more privacy and sometimes a nicer view. If you have a balcony or terrace grilling is usually not a problem, whereas it might be on a lower floor.

Living on the top floor is really a matter of personal preference.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

Just make sure it's not a scam.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

thanks a lot for excellent replies, I am sure others will also benefit from it.

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Just make sure it's not a scam.
Any tips to recognize a scam? Generally, I thought Switzerland is save enough and you don't be worried that much as if you were in any less developed countries.
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thanks a lot for excellent replies, I am sure others will also benefit from it.



Any tips to recognize a scam? Generally, I thought Switzerland is save enough and you don't be worried that much as if you were in any less developed countries.
These scams do not originate in Switzerland, but they advertise apartments in Switzerland.

If you have found a penthouse flat in Geneva and it's affordable, there's one sign it could be a scam. If the landlord is not available to show you the flat, that's another sign. If they ask you to send money before you have even seen the flat. It's not a sign, it's just a scam.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

I've lived in our roof-top apartment for three years now and love it.

Our building is from 1930 and we have a sloped, but very high, ceilings. The unit was 100% renovated about 12 years ago, so the insulation, etc, is all very modern. There is only one skylight (north side) and the windows are all dormer so we have a lot of light.

Things to comment on:
- if the elevator fails, that's a lot of steps
- no sound of footsteps over your head
- great views
- it is not too hot in the summer, IF you button up the windows during the day and open them up at night
- higher up = better air flow, less street noise
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Generally, I thought Switzerland is save enough and you don't be worried that much as if you were in any less developed countries.
I don’t know Geneva so can’t help with your question, but a general word to the wise wrt life in Switzerland:

Take off those rose colored glasses!

Scammers abound here, just as in any country. Many scammers are not based here, that is true, but there are plenty home-grown as well. Both use Switzerland’s reputation to target naive folk who have let their guard down ‘because Switzerland’.

You would be wise to keep the same level of street smarts about you here as you would anywhere else.

Good luck with the house hunting.
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If the top is cheaper than the bottom than clearly something must be wrong with it (or you are comparing diff sized flats)
Depends on if there is a lift & how high the top floor is.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

Exactly, it depends on different factors:

Old/new/er house: -> insulation may be a problem
Lift/no lift: you may have to climb down&up with your laundry, if no machine in the flat.

I have been for years if top apartments and the plus sides where nice view and relative quieter than bottom floors.
Downsides: stairs and bad insulation and no balcony.

As other pointed out: if you got accepted, take it!
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These scams do not originate in Switzerland, but they advertise apartments in Switzerland.

If you have found a penthouse flat in Geneva and it's affordable, there's one sign it could be a scam. If the landlord is not available to show you the flat, that's another sign. If they ask you to send money before you have even seen the flat. It's not a sign, it's just a scam.
I don't want to suggest there are no scams out there. The op should not give anyone cash before actually visiting and making sure the offer is real.

However there is a difference between a 'penthouse' and an apartment in the attic.

The OP should really show us the ad so we give a properly reply.
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Re: an apartment on top floor, pros and cons?

One problem when living on the top floor is that everyone assumes that all noises that they hear that seem to come from above eminate from you!

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These scams do not originate in Switzerland, but they advertise apartments in Switzerland.

If you have found a penthouse flat in Geneva and it's affordable, there's one sign it could be a scam. If the landlord is not available to show you the flat, that's another sign. If they ask you to send money before you have even seen the flat. It's not a sign, it's just a scam.

And never ever send a copy of your ID.
They'll use it to scam the next guy. Or commit plain ID-theft.

Is the ad online? Can you post a link?
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And never ever send a copy of your ID.
They'll use it to scam the next guy. Or commit plain ID-theft.

Is the ad online? Can you post a link?
I saw an ad on homegate.ch, but that ad now gone. I can't find it now.
Here are similar options, let's discuss them:

1.https://www.homegate.ch/rent/2147602322?4
2.https://www.homegate.ch/rent/109280412?12
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I saw an ad on homegate.ch, but that ad now gone. I can't find it now.
Here are similar options, let's discuss them:

1.https://www.homegate.ch/rent/2147602322?4
2.https://www.homegate.ch/rent/109280412?12



Well, they look legit.
You can lookup the agencies in the phonebook (local.ch) and compare the numbers.


I've never looked into the Geneva real-estate market, I cannot say if they're expensive or if the prices are "normal".


Due to CERN, the UN and the various NGOs around it, the housing market in Geneva is completely messed-up IMO.


Though, if you can actually afford to pay 3 grand, you're slightly better positioned than the average guy.
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Though, if you can actually afford to pay 3 grand, you're slightly better positioned than the average guy.
this is another interesting thing about housing in Geneva. If paying 3 grand makes one 'better positioned than the average guy' who are all those people that are going to pay 5 grand or 7 grand.

I mean if you search for an apartment on homegate.ch, and sort them by price, putting cheapest options first, there are few apartments available up to 3000 grand. All other options are more than CHF 3 000.

So, I am little bit confused now. Anyway will find out soon :-)
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