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Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Hi guys I need some DIY/plumbing advice please.

I am looking to replace my old leaky crappy kitchen tap (that constantly drips unless you really screw it crazy tight) for a nice new modern one with extendable hose and spray like this one...



What I am wondering is:

1. Is it a reasonably straightforward job that an 'EF handyman' can be hired to? 2. Can you theoretically buy a kitchen tap from the UK and have it fitted here... is the connection under the sink universal or at least easily adapted?

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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Pretty straightforward, the fittings are all the same thread.

Have a look underneath the old one with a flashlight and mirror: Is it held into the counter with a large hex nut, or is it a plate or bar with a couple of screws? If it's a single large hex and it's very close to the sink you may need to buy a basin wrench to be able to get the nut off. If there is a bit of space between the sink and the faucet fitting then you can sometimes get in there with pump pliers.

If it's a _really_ old installation then the feed pipes on the new one may be too short (so you need extensions), or the shutoff valves in the wall may be solid pipe with olive fittings (in which case you replace the shutoff valves).
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

A bit obvious, but sometimes overlooked, and I speak from personal experience , turn off the water at the main and empty the tube before starting to undo the tap!!!!!
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A bit obvious, but sometimes overlooked, and I speak from personal experience , turn off the water at the main and empty the tube before starting to undo the tap!!!!!
He's a dog... most dogs like water.

(tripping the breaker for the dishwasher probably isn't a bad idea though)
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Pretty straightforward, the fittings are all the same thread.
No, they aren't always.

I have several with different threads.

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No, they aren't always.

I have several with different threads.

Tom
Interesting. Figure that is because of the proximity to Italy?

Here there is a mix of inch and metric, but the parts which use inch are always inch, and same with the metric.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Don't forget to check if you can handle the depth of the tap, the ones with lose hoses need much more space underneath the plate.
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A bit obvious, but sometimes overlooked, and I speak from personal experience , turn off the water at the main and empty the tube before starting to undo the tap!!!!!
I could not find the stop cock but decided to change them on a day we were informed the water would be off from 8.00-16.00. I started at 8.30 & suddenly heard wind coming out of the pipes followed by water. It's actually quite possible to do when the water is still on, just the taps you are fitting need to be open I did get a little wet but no more than a jug of water.
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I could not find the stop cock
Not uncommon. Poor building design.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Thanks for the replies guys!

Here is a photo of the area underneath... it looks like a nut and also seems to have decent space underneath for a hose.

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What do you guys think?
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What do you guys think?
Get a basin wrench. A guy can never have enough tools... especially ones that you only use once.

Those look like hard pipes (well, they're actually soft Copper), so you'll want a replacement with the same OD of hard pipe, or replace the shutoffs with ones which take flex hoses.
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Old 21.01.2019, 00:14
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Did you buy that flat yet?
If not, before you start it all: If it is really old, it's the landlord who has to get it done/pay for it. So check with them first.

I've had one done last year, the guy was here .... 20 minutes?
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Did you try changing the washers?

If this does not work, you can find reasonably priced replacement at DIY places here. Bauhaus or Hornbach are probably the better prices
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Old 21.01.2019, 10:21
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

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I did one like that the other day. Most new taps come with flexible hoses which are easier to fit than your current copper pipes. They're easier to fit too.

One 'problem' I had which you will need to check for is that the existing sink/tap arrangement was quite old and the diameter of the screw fitting of the new tap I had purchased was smaller than the cut-out in the sink.

In my case, it was in a utility room so I put a plastic bung in the old hole and cut a new hole for the new tap.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

I guess I'm reviving an old thread here... Thank you for all of the above suggestions and tips.

I'm also thinking of replacing our kitchen faucet. We do rent our apartment, but the existing tap has become very stiff when using the handle, and also, the faucet that came with the apartment is much too long. I end up soaking the front of my shirt every time I use it to wash dishes, load the dishwasher, etc. I also want to install one that has a pull-out sprayer to help rinse the sink when I clean it.

I've been looking at new faucets on amazon.de, because the selection is quite large on there and of course, the prices are much cheaper than what you find here in CH.

One of my questions is: Do I need to get a new tap that has the same or very, very close diameter or circumference of the existing faucet's base (the bottom part that sits against the counter top)? And is there anything else to consider when buying a new faucet in terms of it being able to be installed correctly, to replace the old one?

I'm thinking of calling our landlord to see if they'll replace the old faucet with the new one that we've purchased ourselves. Unfortunately, my husband doesn't seem to have much patience for doing this kind of thing himself. But I'm hoping I can convince him, as I don't want to have to wait for them to do it, etc.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

Be careful about simply buying one and expecting someone else to fit it. You may end up with something that is not compatible in some way with your existing installation. For example, there are taps for high and for low pressure hot water systems, different mounting hole sizes, pipe threads etc.
I bought a replacement for our kitchen mixer tap from Hornbach because, at least there, you can get a comprehensive data sheet for the item. I also got from them the special tool (basin wrench) to fit it
https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/suche/sortiment/wasserhahn
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Be careful about simply buying one and expecting someone else to fit it. You may end up with something that is not compatible in some way with your existing installation. For example, there are taps for high and for low pressure hot water systems, different mounting hole sizes, pipe threads etc.
I bought a replacement for our kitchen mixer tap from Hornbach because, at least there, you can get a comprehensive data sheet for the item. I also got from them the special tool (basin wrench) to fit it
https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/suche/sortiment/wasserhahn
Thanks. I really had no idea how difficult or complex it would (or could) be. I read a few places online that it's very easy to do yourself, but it sounds like it can be rather complex to get the right one, etc.

So I guess I should call the landlord first, about having a new one installed. Hopefully they will be willing to replace it with one that is not so long. I'd hate to buy one on amazon.de and then for it to not fit correctly.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

We did this last year - we offered to purchase two new taps and asked our landlord to pay for installation. One we bought from Hornbach and the other from I think Migros... the irony was the super-good one for the kitchen with hose fitting etc was about half the price quite ordinary one we put into the handbasin in the bathroom.


Previously, our landlord had been replacing them with Ikea options. We've been in our apartment 10+ years and he had already replaced them once over that time...maybe even twice...


We've done this a few times (offered to pay half the cost in order to choose what we want/a more expensive option) and it's been a good strategy with our landlord... and our landlord definitely does not use a commercial plumber for this - he has a 'handyman/mate' who does the basic stuff...then we don't worry about any liability for installation, and he get a 'discount' on the cost of replacements, and a happy tenant.
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Re: Changing an old leaky kitchen tap for a new one...

I'd try the landlord first too. 9 times out of 10 it's a relatively easy DIY job but sometimes there can be complications with unusual fittings, or needing a special tool to remove the old mixer or install the new one.


Almost always the hole is 35mm, that's the industry standard so the base diameter is always the same.
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Almost always the hole is 35mm, that's the industry standard so the base diameter is always the same.
Unless it's a very old sink then the hole may be bigger and the new tap will fall through.
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