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Plumbing issues in a rental flat...who pays?

Hello all. So, I am in a rental flat and one of the pipes is leaking under the sink. In any other country that I have lived in (France, US, UK), whoever has owned the flat has sorted it. That is part of the benefit of not owning it.

But my landlord here is telling me that because it is normal maintenance, I need to pay for it. He will only pay if the pipe is broken. It may or may not be broken but I won't know until a plumber takes a look at it. It is very very cheap plastic and doesn't look like it was well installed from the beginning.

Is this correct? Or would he be responsible for it?

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Re: Plumbing issues in a rental flat...who pays?

It's part of the structure, so surely should not be your responsibility. And a leaking pipe is absolutely not normal maintenance.

Is it a water pipe or waste? If the latter then you may be able to simply tighten it up by hand, but even so I'd expect it be the landlord's responsibility, not yours.
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Re: Plumbing issues in a rental flat...who pays?

Small repairs up to (usually defined) 150chf need to be taken care by the tenant, unless the specific item has served its defined life cycle.

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It's part of the structure, so surely should not be your responsibility. And a leaking pipe is absolutely not normal maintenance.

Is it a water pipe or waste? If the latter then you may be able to simply tighten it up by hand, but even so I'd expect it be the landlord's responsibility, not yours.
There is actually no place to even tighten it. It is virtually one pipe placed into a larger pipe moderately tightly. There is a rubber gasket between the two which is a bit warped which might be the issue (though pipes really should be locked onto one another!). I looked for another gasket but didn't want to buy a zillion of them since I only need one. And the one I did buy didn't fit anyway so I had to return it.

I can just caulk it shut maybe. It is very poorly installed. Not being able to actually tighten the pipe is crazy. It has leaked before, but it was so bad this last time that it almost permanently warped the cupboard underneath.

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Small repairs up to (usually defined) 150chf need to be taken care by the tenant, unless the specific item has served its defined life cycle.

https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...satzteile.html
Interesting. Switzerland is not a bad place for landlords then. Tenants can potentially cover lots of their costs.
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Post a picture. We can probably help you.
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Re: Plumbing issues in a rental flat...who pays?

Changing a gasket (if this is really the issue) is regular maintenance and you will have to cover it.
It may be better (especially cheaper for you) if you check the gasket size and look for a new one in Jumbo/Hornbach.

Plumber will charge you for trip to your place (can be easily 100 CHF) + his work (probably also not less than 100 CHF) + gasket cost with solid markup.
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I can just caulk it shut maybe. It is very poorly installed. Not being able to actually tighten the pipe is crazy. It has leaked before, but it was so bad this last time that it almost permanently warped the cupboard underneath.
Remove the pipes and take all parts with you to buy the casket at Jumbo, Hornbach, Migros DoIt, etc, whichever you prefer. Request support by the personnel.

If you're looking for help by a specialist, you could take the pipes there, rather than have the specialist come and take a look as with the latter you'd get billed for the time they take to get to you.
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Re: Plumbing issues in a rental flat...who pays?

There are also elastic duck tapes which are good for quick fixing leaking waste pipes as the water does not leak under pressure. Just wrap tightly around the leaking place.
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There are also elastic duck tapes which are good for quick fixing leaking waste pipes as the water does not leak under pressure. Just wrap tightly around the leaking place.
Thank you. I had the custodian for the building look at it and he confirms that the one pipe is just too short to fit properly into the other and that the pipes were just not well installed. So your option sounds like it could work for a quick and cheap fix.
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