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Old 10.02.2019, 16:44
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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

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I like the sound of this solution.

...but if it doesn't work, you could easily end up doing far more damage to the frame which would result in a far larger bill.


For somethings, maybe just best to get somebody in to do it for you
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Old 10.02.2019, 17:13
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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

Don’t make it too huge DIY job. Just get a two compound glue that’s is able to repair weight-bearing parts and that should harden strong enough to keep the hinge in place once and for good.
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Old 10.02.2019, 17:15
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Just get a two compound glue that’s is able to repair weight-bearing parts and that should harden strong enough to keep the hinge in place once and for good.
Verbier's proposed glue should be good enough, though, right?

I could not use any instant setting glue, as it will take a minute to align it properly before letting it set.

My concern is that the hinge is already a tight fit. I'm not sure how easy it will be to get glue in there around it. This said, I still have the feeling it will work.
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...but if it doesn't work, you could easily end up doing far more damage to the frame which would result in a far larger bill.


For somethings, maybe just best to get somebody in to do it for you
Indeed... I am mulling it over!
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Old 10.02.2019, 17:18
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Verbier's proposed glue should be good enough, though, right?

I could not use any instant setting glue, as it will take a minute to align it properly before letting it set.

My concern is that the hinge is already a tight fit. I'm not sure how easy it will be to get glue in there around it. This said, I still have the feeling it will work.
Redrill the hole by 0.5mm - 1mm dia. or so larger if necessary. I have a feeling that it won’t be necessary. There are types of glues on the market nowadays that will hold an elephant upside down on the ceiling.

Use the one that consists of two compounds i.e. glue and hardener 50/50 proportion. Align the hinge. Wait out their recommended time 24h or so until it dries out completely.
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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

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As a very basic and primitive, yet simple solution:
If the existing hole hasn't been too destroyed, pass a piece of any cotton rag through that hole at the end of the hinge, then soak it in strongest glue you could find and ram the thing into the door frame hole. The rag will fill up the space between the hinge and the hole surface, glue will help bind it. I don't see the need for extra woodwork unless your door weighs a tonne. Wait 24 hours, test it, then hang the door /if it fails, 'groan' at me/...

That is basically my method using a rag as a filler -I would prefer something more solid as a filler (eg No 8 wire ) Whatever method you use, the alignment of the top and bottom hinges is critical, which is the reason for attaching the door when fixing the hinge. You need to support the weight so that the hinge does not move.
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Verbier's proposed glue should be good enough, though, right?

I could not use any instant setting glue, as it will take a minute to align it properly before letting it set.

My concern is that the hinge is already a tight fit. I'm not sure how easy it will be to get glue in there around it. This said, I still have the feeling it will work.

It's a hinge fixing with a lot of wear and tear on it, not to mention a certain force, it needs to be really strong
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There are types of glues on the market nowadays that will hold an elephant upside down on the ceiling.
The image of that made me laugh, thanks
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Old 10.02.2019, 19:06
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It's a hinge fixing with a lot of wear and tear on it, not to mention a certain force, it needs to be really strong
Hardwood shims, driven into the epoxy filled void would probably be strong enough. The hard part would be keeping the epoxy in the space while it cures.

Who knows if there's a void behind that facing board.

And... if it has to come out for any reason... good night John Boy.
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The image of that made me laugh, thanks
On a serious not though. If the hinge, in the first place, fitted perfectly before, then it is just a matter of putting it back where it belongs. If you don’t wanna do to much of carpentering work just go to Jumbo or Obi straight to the glue department. That’s my 5 cents.

@Jag: Most likely what would help would be to redrill the hole slightly larger to let the epoxy breath during solidifying process.
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Old 10.02.2019, 19:22
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@Jag: Most likely what would help would be to redrill the hole slightly larger to let the epoxy breath during solidifying process.
Gravity is less effective in large gaps? That's news to me.
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Old 10.02.2019, 19:31
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Gravity is less effective in large gaps? That's news to me.
He won’t be able to remove that hinge later. It will defy the law of gravity.
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Old 10.02.2019, 19:56
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He won’t be able to remove that hinge later. It will defy the law of gravity.
My point was that the epoxy will follow the law of gravity and run out of the gap before it cures.

Poking shims into the space will mean that the glue only needs to hold the shims in place.
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I can imagine only that the door and frame were originally purchased as a matched pair since the hinge has no possibility of any adjustment and it would require far too much precision to use the two what appear to be fixing holes on site.



It's not unusual for the door frame hinge side to be bolted in place and only the door side can be adjusted. For hinges for heavy doors with two screws/bolts on them it is the only way. If everything is fitted in the right place you don't need to adjust, right?



If I were the op I might first try glueing it but otherwise measuring where the hole is and trying to locate where the side screw could be on the frame would be the other option.
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Old 10.02.2019, 21:16
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My point was that the epoxy will follow the law of gravity and run out of the gap before it cures.

Poking shims into the space will mean that the glue only needs to hold the shims in place.
There is the way. If you wait until the adhesive becomes less liquidy after few minutes then no issue with escaping from the slot.
I would try something like this:

https://www.jumbo.ch/de/plus-endfest-5160?sku=1272653

It’s 90min workable which means you need to wait a little bit before applying it at the final stage when it starts hardening.

This thread should read: “Adhesive for broken door hinge” ...

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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

Our house has quite a few different hinge types as well. The style that you have is held in place by a large nail through the door frame into one of the holes that is shown on your removed hinge part. Perhaps the original constructors forgot to add the nail and over the years, it finally worked itself free. I replaced a few of these door frames a few years ago and it was next to impossible to remove the nail without destroying the frame (trying to separate the metal from the wood for recycling).

I would measure the distance to one of those open holes and then drill a precise pilot hole into the door frame. Using an appropriately sized nail, drive it through. No more worries. I wouldn't mess with adhesives in this situation.
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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

On a second look while zooming your 2nd photo: Is there a 3rd hole between the two open ones? Lighting is kind of funky but could there be the remains of the sheared nail in a 3rd hole?
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Re: Advice for broken door hinge?

I found this on https://docplayer.org/62271066-Moebe...ebersicht.html

The joiner uses a jig (Verstiftungslehre) to drill the holes in the frame in the precise position to match up with the hole(s) in stud which penetrates the door frame.

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If I were the op I might first try glueing it but otherwise measuring where the hole is and trying to locate where the side screw could be on the frame would be the other option.
I am now favouring the drilling and nail solution actually, as I see that it would be possible to drill in the outer frame with the smaller of the two holes on the hinge. As in the diagram directly above.
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On a second look while zooming your 2nd photo: Is there a 3rd hole between the two open ones? Lighting is kind of funky but could there be the remains of the sheared nail in a 3rd hole?
No, just two holes.
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