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Areas to live in Geneva

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I would appreciate any advice on where you consider to be the best areas to live for a family moving to Geneva from Central London (2 kids aged 13 and 7).

Where we send the girls to school will have an impact, and school will be International/English .... but apart from that we'd like a little of what we have at home, on a smaller scale understandably. Restaurants, green space, close to good transport links, somewhere a teen won't be bored (shops and sports/pool/lake). Does it exist ?!
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Hello,

I would appreciate any advice on where you consider to be the best areas to live for a family moving to Geneva from Central London (2 kids aged 13 and 7).

Where we send the girls to school will have an impact, and school will be International/English .... but apart from that we'd like a little of what we have at home, on a smaller scale understandably. Restaurants, green space, close to good transport links, somewhere a teen won't be bored (shops and sports/pool/lake). Does it exist ?!



Depends if you can afford the best....


If you can think Collogny and that area, but rents can easily be in excess of Chf 15k (month)
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Decide first on your kids school, then look for accommodations nearby.
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Depends if you can afford the best....


If you can think Collogny and that area, but rents can easily be in excess of Chf 15k (month)
Best for a family, as opposed to any other kind of perceived “best” that you may have inferred. For families meaning in terms of general amenities and areas which attract other families, for example.

We have shortlisted three schools but they are in differing locations. I wondered if area may swing it re: making a choice.

Versoix, Carrouge, Eaux Vives for example ...
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Geneva is very beautiful and very expensive and it has a housing shortage.

1) School first.
There are waiting lists at CDL and Ecolint.

2) Housing.
Find a relocation company if you have the means, it will make your life easier.
Quickly jump on the flat/house you like.

Please consider a situation that is very different from the UK.
Here, choice is limited and there are many others looking for the same so it is the schools and the real estate agencies who decide who they take.

Versoix is ok, Bellevue and Genthod are better
Eaux Vives center is a bit "populaire", best to head for the better areas such as Cologny, Malagnou, Florissant, Chêne Bourg etc.
CaRouge (1 r, 2 rr is another town), no real opinion, don't know.
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Versoix: is nice if you want to be near the lake and the Jura mountains but not for shopping etc* as it's out of Geneva and under the flight path when they approach from the west.

Carouge: some trendy parts, some drab tower blocks, visit and find the right place.

Eaux-Vives: one end is very much part of the city, the other has parks and the lake, it's the most urban and dense part but not particularly upscale, ie rents ok.

These are quick suggestions, best obviously to visit the schools and see what you think of them and then tour the areas and see what your budget says.


I'd echo the suggestion for a relocation agency if any employer will arrange this. They say there's a housing shortage in London but walk out of any train or tube station and you'll find agents offering hundreds of properties to rent and buy, come to Geneva you'll struggle to find the agents, let alone the properties.


* come to Geneva for the shopping, nightlife etc and you'll probably be disappointed, it's a far cry from London, Paris, Milan etc, it's sleepier than Frankfurt... but stunning in summer with the lake, mountains etc
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Geneva is a great village. Kids love villages, they hate big cities. Seriously, though, I think for a decent size town it is quite pleasant for families, except the large estates and quartiers.
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Why are you looking for the same? New place new opportunities Definitely think about experiencing all what Switzerland can give you for free: Skiing in winter, hiking and mountain-biking in summer. The whole Switzerland is a land of villages, forget about big cities lifestyle, experience new. Geneva has some central area but you (your kinds) would quickly get bored with it. I met here people complaining about the lack of big city lifestyle but once they moved away they realized how much they missed about Switzerland and now they visit me from time to time to go for hiking
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

We aren't looking for the same as London, and we have lived elsewhere. However it would be useful to know if young families in Geneva prefer/migrate toward a certain area for whatever reason.

We will of course consider schools first - and we are doing so, but as I say - our first few schooling choices are in very differing areas. We have arranged visits.

We do have a relocation agent as arranged through work, however I would prefer to hear from locals as to areas to perhaps narrow in on ......


Already, I fear that perhaps I'm experiencing what other ex-pats have warned about this all being a long way from the friendliness of home/London, which is a real shame.
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We do have a relocation agent as arranged through work, however I would prefer to hear from locals as to areas to perhaps narrow in on ......
Don't fear of landing in any bad area, the whole Switzerland is a good neighbourhood. I mean it! Don't fear! I have the experience in living in 6 places through my life, so I sense your way of thinking. Switzerland is literally good regardless of the address. The best place? Well, it's really subject to personal opinion, and even if, it would change over time

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Already, I fear that perhaps I'm experiencing what other ex-pats have warned about this all being a long way from the friendliness of home/London, which is a real shame.
Haha, yes and no, it's a villagers mentality from your perspective. You have to come here, be a good citizen, live for a while, gradually people will accept you and open up, but it takes months/years
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Don't fear of landing in any bad area, the whole Switzerland is a good neighbourhood. I mean it! Don't fear! I have the experience in living in 6 places through my life, so I sense your way of thinking. Switzerland is literally good regardless of the address. The best place? Well, it's really subject to personal opinion, and even if, it would change over time
Don't agree, when raising teenagers, especially girls, you absolutely want the safety. I would not want a teenage girl wandering around Eaux Vives at night.

Regarding friendliness, it's a different culture, thus friendly in a quiet, very reserved way.

You could join the International Women's Club in Geneva etc. There are many many places to make friends, in both French and English.
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Don't agree, when raising teenagers, especially girls, you absolutely want the safety. I would not want a teenage girl wandering around Eaux Vives at night.
It's like they say, better safe than sorry. If you wish to be absolutely safe than don't leave your room, but bear in mind that 98% of people die in their room!

OK, I've never been at Euax Vives at night. The most closest to that was like 11 pm (does it count as night?) but the district was absolutely normal and safe, nothing to compare with any good London district at night. I lived in London for almost two years, it's a capitol of the whole Earth at one hand but a pit of the earth on the other hand. I just used to see the world 'selectively' whilst living there. Even when you live in the best regarded part of the town it doesn't mean that you don't get in touch with the tough life. In contrast in Switzerland, even in the poorest districts of any town people are behaving, of course I can't say I've been everywhere.
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Eaux Vives is perfectly fine anytime... but not for a lone teenage girl over night, in this scenario I wouldn't consider any place on earth properly 100% safe, especially for over-protective parents (an advice - don't be one, it will help kids greatly).

I can recommend generally Champel area - rents are not ridiculous as Collogny, its green with big and small parcs, tons of doctors, traders and other high earners are living there. You can get everywhere quickly (apart from the airport, thats +-30 minutes).

Lake is nice all year but swimmable for most folks 2-2.5 months a year (unless global warming props up things like it is doing right now). Very close to the lake the most accommodation sucks - noise, high prices, problems parking. i find it perfectly fine to walk to it in 10-15 mins, as do most people here (I actually often take a bus to the other side - Bains du Paquis for some bouldering straight from water and good cheap dinners).

Choose location based on school and work - you don't want to be crossing daily from one side of Geneva to the other (division is lake/river) - the bridges are too few and too often jammed (not for buses but for cars).
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Eaux Vives is perfectly fine anytime... but not for a lone teenage girl over night, in this scenario I wouldn't consider any place on earth properly 100% safe, especially for over-protective parents (an advice - don't be one, it will help kids greatly).

I can recommend generally Champel area - rents are not ridiculous as Collogny, its green with big and small parcs, tons of doctors, traders and other high earners are living there. You can get everywhere quickly (apart from the airport, thats +-30 minutes).

Lake is nice all year but swimmable for most folks 2-2.5 months a year (unless global warming props up things like it is doing right now). Very close to the lake the most accommodation sucks - noise, high prices, problems parking. i find it perfectly fine to walk to it in 10-15 mins, as do most people here (I actually often take a bus to the other side - Bains du Paquis for some bouldering straight from water and good cheap dinners).

Choose location based on school and work - you don't want to be crossing daily from one side of Geneva to the other (division is lake/river) - the bridges are too few and too often jammed (not for buses but for cars).
Very helpful tips - thank you!

Our teen daughter has a great deal of independence here, so it is something to consider as we really enjoy her having that and growing/learning from it.
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

Work will be near the airport, and school hopefully that side of the lake also. Any nice areas that way? Left bank/Central?
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Hello,

I would appreciate any advice on where you consider to be the best areas to live for a family moving to Geneva from Central London (2 kids aged 13 and 7).

Where we send the girls to school will have an impact, and school will be International/English .... but apart from that we'd like a little of what we have at home, on a smaller scale understandably. Restaurants, green space, close to good transport links, somewhere a teen won't be bored (shops and sports/pool/lake). Does it exist ?!

Despite the slight marking down, Eaux Vives ticks all the boxes as very popular with lots of independent family restaurants, unusual shops etc. Along the tram line and main roads it gets noisy but there are lovely flats off the main drag. Beauty is you can walk down to the lake, to beautiful Parc des Eaux Vives. Think Islington by the lake (When Islington was just about turning "posher"). Champel is a series of perpendicular roads with modern blocks, apparently very posh although personally I find it a little too soulless . A bit further afield, but close enough by public transport, Vésenaz, Vandoeuvres, Collonge-Bellerive are very nice, both close to the lake, and max a 15 minute bus ride to the heart of Geneva. Prices to match! Best is to go on the Geneva Public Transport website: http://www.tpg.ch/plans-du-reseau and look at any tram or bus line, how far you are from chosen school / workplace etc. and narrow down your research. We did the same, having our eldest who was 16 when we moved here, it was key to be on a tpg line.
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Re: Areas to live in Geneva

I've just realised North of Geneva is considered 'right bank' - so any good spots that way?

Good point re: public transport for kids schools, my teen travels independently by public transport in London so I would be looking for a work/life/school balance that would permit the same in Geneva ....
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