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HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

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I found my perfect flat in Au by the lake with a massive terrace overlooking the lake, 2 bedrooms, modern, basically perfect. 2800pm. 100m2 ish.

The current tenant is leaving and I didn't have much time to think and I have applied after he proposed my name to the agency. Having had a look at the contract though I find some odd things:

- fixed until Sep 2020
- only 2 termination dates allowed March and Sept (rather than 3)

I currently am happy with my beautiful place in Enge (Google) but wanted something larger and this place fit the bill.

Do you think it is risky to take over this restrictive contract? Does the price seem reasonable to you - asking because if my circumstances change I may have to return to London. Would I struggle to find someone for this price?

Should I take it?

Also - the current tenant seems to be in a rush and wants me to take over from April 15 (I had suggested May 1 so I have time to get rid of my place too). Should I push back?

Any advice would be hugely appreciated!!!
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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

The terms are very normal and you ask us if the price is good but don't show us the apartment and mention no price.

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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

I'm interested in your flat in Enge
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Old 14.03.2019, 16:28
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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

If you take it from April 15th, you'll be liable for both sets of rent from then until you get rid of your place, so check your existing contract.

Terrace and lake view? You'll shift it easy I expect, when the day comes.
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The terms are very normal and you ask us if the price is good but don't show us the apartment and mention no price.

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Maybe I should start thinking of taking an eye test.

Still without knowing the apartment we'd have no clue about if the price is correct.
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Guys,
I found my perfect flat in Au by the lake with a massive terrace overlooking the lake, 2 bedrooms, modern, basically perfect. 2800pm. 100m2 ish.

The current tenant is leaving and I didn't have much time to think and I have applied after he proposed my name to the agency. Having had a look at the contract though I find some odd things:

- fixed until Sep 2020
- only 2 termination dates allowed March and Sept (rather than 3)

I currently am happy with my beautiful place in Enge (Google) but wanted something larger and this place fit the bill.

Do you think it is risky to take over this restrictive contract? Does the price seem reasonable to you - asking because if my circumstances change I may have to return to London. Would I struggle to find someone for this price?

Should I take it?

Also - the current tenant seems to be in a rush and wants me to take over from April 15 (I had suggested May 1 so I have time to get rid of my place too). Should I push back?

Any advice would be hugely appreciated!!!
If you are willing to take over by May you are still doing the other person a huge favour as his next date apparently is September. So don't let him push you.
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I'm interested in your flat in Enge
Hahaha. Will send you details asap!
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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

not sure where Au is, but it sounds like a golden opportunity!
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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

Hahaha! What a gallant saviour in this world of internet bitterness!

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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

You can afford to pay 2.8k a month. Do you really want to argue about 1.4k in light of that?

1yr fixed is common, up to 2 years nothing extraordinary.

How long has the current tenant had the place? Unless they're leaving after 6 months already (that would add up to 2yrs fixed in total), you're probably being offered a different contract instead of the existing one (which probably means increased rent). If you decide against the flat but still want to do the current tenant a favor, they're still off the hook if you simply claim that you'd step into the old contract (but can't since that's not offered).

Check your own cancel dates and make sure you cancel in time. I would insist on more cancel dates. Maybe start with monthly so the owner can compromise on three.
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not sure where Au is, but it sounds like a golden opportunity!
Hey Phil,
connections aren't bad at all as the Thalwil trains (don't remember like S24s) go straight to Enge and HB. Will be 30mins door to door for work in paradeplatz.

Now it's like 4mins.....

That's what everyone I speak to is saying that people are desperate for lake views and terraces so I should be able to find someone. I've just been burned so bad by a contract I signed when I first moved here I am paranoid as hell...

When I spoke to MV she was rolling her eyes at 2800CHF but I've seen apartments 1/4the size upwards of 3400 so don't think it's thaaaat expensive.
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Old 14.03.2019, 16:49
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Re: HELP! Perfect flat but hideous contract in Au

I don't really get it - we are now nearing end-March 2019, and you have options to quit the contract until Sept. 2020?
Have obviously misunderstood your dilemma.

Air B&B might be a solution i.e. if you love it, sounds good!
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Hey Phil,
connections aren't bad at all as the Thalwil trains (don't remember like S24s) go straight to Enge and HB. Will be 30mins door to door for work in paradeplatz.

Now it's like 4mins.....

That's what everyone I speak to is saying that people are desperate for lake views and terraces so I should be able to find someone. I've just been burned so bad by a contract I signed when I first moved here I am paranoid as hell...

When I spoke to MV she was rolling her eyes at 2800CHF but I've seen apartments 1/4the size upwards of 3400 so don't think it's thaaaat expensive.
Is Fr. 2800.00 more than 1/3 of 70% of your salary? (Which would be your ALV)
You work for google you said? Is there the possibility they close down soon?
Do you (like to) move often?
Is the flat still worth the money in 4 months time? (Take a step back and be honest to yourself).

No need to reply publicly - just worth a thought.
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connections aren't bad at all as the Thalwil trains (don't remember like S24s) go straight to Enge and HB. Will be 30mins door to door for work in paradeplatz.
It disappoints me greatly that someone who works at Paradeplatz didn’t get Phil’s joke.

One thing that isn’t clear to me is whether this is a fixed term contract to September 2020? What happens then? If you are kicked out at that point and have no plans to leave Zurich, you’ll have to move again with all the hassle and expense that comes with it.
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Ah shit. This will haunt me forever. Please attribute this to my stresses relating to 2 apartments and Brexit mess.


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One thing that isn’t clear to me is whether this is a fixed term contract to September 2020? What happens then? If you are kicked out at that point and have no plans to leave Zurich, you’ll have to move again with all the hassle and expense that comes with it.
Oh no no. I have the contract indefinitely. Just the "minimum" period is until Sept 2020 so no notice before then.
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Oh no no. I have the contract indefinitely. Just the "minimum" period is until Sept 2020 so no notice before then.
Don't forget it works both ways so your landlord can't turf you out willy-nilly.

Nothing stopping you from getting a new tenant within that period, though. If it's a "des-res" with a decent price tag, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Is Fr. 2800.00 more than 1/3 of 70% of your salary? (Which would be your ALV)
You work for google you said? Is there the possibility they close down soon?
Do you (like to) move often?
Is the flat still worth the money in 4 months time? (Take a step back and be honest to yourself).

No need to reply publicly - just worth a thought.
No, don't work at G, just live near it
I hate moving and wanted to leave the country like 2 years ago and yet here I am still and enjoying every day of it and travelling so much because the location and $$ allow that lifestyle. However was feeling sorry for myself that I haven't lived a properly "Swiss" lifestyle of a fancy lakeside, lakeview place while I'm here. So even if I were to move in the next year I would have lived in a lovely place for some time. Not sure how long - hence the horrible dilemma (also in view of potentially 2x moving/cleaning costs etc. )

(Though having said that all my Swiss friends live in like Winterthur, Schlieren and Glattpark....Not that anything is wrong with these places. Just coming from London I think a view must be so fantastic to have!)


And yes, even while articulating this stuff I am deeply aware how first world our problems are here in CH....
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not sure where Au is, but it sounds like a golden opportunity!
It has been pointed out that I missed your joke. You should just keep cracking them until you get a reaction
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