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Moving to Zurich

Apologies if this question has already been answered, but most of the research Ive found seems to revolve around looking for a place AFTER you are in Switzerland.

We will be moving over to Zurich (or nearby) in the weekend of 13 April as my partner starts a new job on 22. We wll be coming over with all our worldly possessions (inc one cat)in one Luton van.

Has anyone advise on this. Should we arrange some viewings at a weekend before and visit? Is there some kind of short term rentals we can get temporarily while we find something suitable. We could just stay in a hotel for a couple of weeks while we do it but since we have a cat (and lot of furniture) would be better if we could just get something straight away.

Any help would be appreciated!!

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Re: Moving to Zurich

Even with stuff that stays in the van (or the need for a storage area) I suspect it is still probably easiest to plan to stay in a temporary place for 1-2 months while you get housing sorted. You can try to arrange viewings, but it really isn't guaranteed to be a 2 week process, especially if you want to be in the city of Zurich.

Vision is a well know renter of short term/furnished apartments. Homegate has a category for furnished apartments, though it is primarily known for longer term housing. Beyond that, it is really hard to give advice without knowing your priorities, work neighborhood, etc. Good luck!
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Thomas is right. It is almost impossible to get an apartment in two weeks if you are searching for something in the range of 2-3 K CHF. If you can pay above 4K, it is a bit easier to get an apartment.

You can also try https://swiss-star.com/?lang=en for temporary accommodation.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Thanks for the quick reply! Yes I suspect that sounds more practical. We may even leave most of our stuff in storage here in the UK and bring it over later on when we find somewhere.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Thanks for the quick reply! Ill check out the links but it doe seem more reasonable
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Has anyone advise on this. Should we arrange some viewings at a weekend before and visit? Is there some kind of short term rentals we can get temporarily while we find something suitable.
Hi John,

You're a little bit limited with having a cat and such a short timescale to work with. Also, I've found that weekend viewings are very rare here. Is there any chance that one of you can get a couple of days off midweek to do a few viewings? If so, price up easyjet flights into Basel along with Swiss, etc, into Zurich.

Please check out a previous post I made about 'befristete' (limited) lets.
With our first apartment application, which was a limited 4mth let, I saw it whilst we were still in the UK, but neither of us could get time off work for a viewing. On our second day in Switzerland, I had a walk around the area and made the initial viewing request on 13th Nov. I viewed it on the 15th, applied on the 16th and we moved in on 1 December. My partner didn't see the inside of the apartment until the day we moved in, and the agent did say that it was the fastest time they'd processed an application in.

https://www.englishforum.ch/housing-...ml#post2630396

Currently, there are two 'befristete' lets available in the same building in Witikon until 31 December, which probably means the building will be demolished or refurbished next year. That being the case, they're far more likely to allow pets, despite the ad not indicating that. You would have to ask them.

The location is on the No.31 bus route, which takes 22mins direct to Zurich HB.

CHF 1,690 https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/ma.../show/20626877

CHF 1,990 https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/ma.../show/20626876

There's also another in Wiedikon for CHF 1690, but it's only until the end of September https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/ma.../show/20657383
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Re: Moving to Zurich

That’s brilliant thanks for that! We will indeed check out those two apartments as they look good! Thanks for your help, its quite daunting at the moment but I’m sure we will get sorted eventually!!
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Always check that pets are allowed when looking at a rental property. You can check on these websites and they have a filter for pets allowed which helps.

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

I'd leave your stuff behind to bring over later if you decide you need it because it's very unlikely you're going to get something permanent quickly. Many rental contracts here are tied to specific "official" moving dates which are only 2 or 3 times a year. You'd have to check for Zurich's ones, but here in Fribourg canton the official dates are 31st March and 30th September so moving is geared around those dates. 30th June is another so you might be able to get a temp place when you arrive and then arrange to move into something permanent around then. That's not to say people don't move outside of these dates, but your choice of properties might be more limited.

The above sites have options to look for furnished apartments so that might be an alternative to hotels.

The other problem is you'll need to be in one place for several weeks if not a couple of months to be able to get the residence permit you'll need to be able to live/work here. If not a rental contract then a letter or something from the place you're staying to say you're going to be there until such and such a date.
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The other problem is you'll need to be in one place for several weeks if not a couple of months to be able to get the residence permit you'll need to be able to live/work here. If not a rental contract then a letter or something from the place you're staying to say you're going to be there until such and such a date.
We applied for our residence permits on the first full day in Switzerland, and changed address twice before we received them. I just kept nipping into the immigration office to let them know and take the contract as proof of address. It took 6 weeks for mine to be processed and 3 mths for my partner's.

All we had for our first application was my OH's work contract, a CRB extract and banking records to prove he had enough savings to support me.
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John, this is veering OT from your housing question, but the above caught my eye. Just in case you haven't already come across this, be aware that in the case of a no-deal Brexit where the UK is treated as an unlisted country there might be additional hoops to jump through bringing your cat in... or not.

Here is a thread discussing the subject:
https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...swiss-one.html

Hop on over to the Pets Corner if you have further questions, hopefully folks who regularly travel to and from the UK might have updated information.

(And if you've already got this covered, then applogies - ignore me. )


Good luck with the house hunt!
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Re: Moving to Zurich

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It is daunting now, but you will get there and everything will be fine

We only had about 26 days notice, so had to give notice on our jobs on the same day that we heard he'd got the job (that was fun way to spend my lunch hour...Not!), pack and move back up north, go to a wedding in Liverpool, and we flew out of Manchester the day after with 2 suitcases each and a stinking hangover. Correction, think I was still wrecked from the night before.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Just been through this; I came ahead of family, stayed in temporary accommodation before renting.

Most times of year there is relatively little on market because everyone moves on just two dates: 1 April and 1 October.

Outside these dates there are renters who want to move and advertise for „Nachmieter“ to take over their rental contracts. If they have a sweet deal there may competition to take over the contract. If it’s expensive or a bad place it may stick around.

There are also a variety of motives for moving before a rental contract ends. It’s quite individual, and if you keep eye on market, get in quick and make clear if it’s the place you want that you are keen, then your chances of bagging somewhere nice are good.

Try naloo‘s immomailing. It’s a daily email with places that aren’t on the main property sites, usually Nachmieter situations. There‘s one-off fee to sign up. https://immomailing.ch
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Just as a guide it took me 10 weeks from landing to moving in. I would not reckon on any less than that.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

My wife and I just relocated from Seattle and it wasn't all that bad. We came out a few weeks ago and did a home hunting tour in which we saw probably 8 or 9 properties and applied to 2. Luckily we met the owner of one the day we saw it and had a nice connection. She immediately accepted our application (w/a small dog) and we've moved in a couple weeks later on the day we arrived back in Zurich (Thalwil).



The list of homes we were going to look at changed on what seemed to be a daily basis, with homes being rented as fast as they came on the market but new ones did pop up in the same fashion.



A note of caution though - you must be present to tour the home. Renting sight unseen is not allowed here and showing appointments are typically only on week days. As our relocation agent put it, the real estate/leasing agents just don't care enough to work on the weekends.



Fear not though, it can be done if you have your affairs in order and a little luck. We arranged for our community documents appointment after moving and we're checking in with the city to register tomorrow.
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Apologies if this question has already been answered, but most of the research Ive found seems to revolve around looking for a place AFTER you are in Switzerland.

We will be moving over to Zurich (or nearby) in the weekend of 13 April as my partner starts a new job on 22. We wll be coming over with all our worldly possessions (inc one cat)in one Luton van.

Has anyone advise on this. Should we arrange some viewings at a weekend before and visit? Is there some kind of short term rentals we can get temporarily while we find something suitable. We could just stay in a hotel for a couple of weeks while we do it but since we have a cat (and lot of furniture) would be better if we could just get something straight away.

Any help would be appreciated!!

John
Cats are not always welcome by landlords and often forbidden. So your house hunting will also revolve around your cat. And if he's a cat that goes outside then also you have to consider this in your choice.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Brilliant response everyone! this many replies in less than 24 hours says everything about the expat community in Zurich and Switzerland in general!Im looking forward to it.

Listening to the advise I'm veering on the temporary accommodation, putting our stuff in storage and bringing it over later when we have permanent accommodation. Seems like the most practical way of doing it.

I've checked out the cat situation, we have had his rabies jabs and now has a EU pet passport, but what our options are depends entirely what happens with Brexit, nobody really knows yet. the Eu passport may well be irrelevant but we got it just in case.


I've had a look at every link everyone has posted because believe me I want every piece of advise I can get!

Thanks everyone!!!
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Well, as well as the various sticky threads here on the forum you might want to get hold of a copy of "Living and Working in Switzerland" by David Hampshire. It's full of useful info for both before and after you move. You can order it from your local bookshop or via the internet. Make sure to get the latest edition.
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Not sure whether this link is in the above: https://www.ums.ch/welcome/
It specialises in temporary accommodation.
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Re: Moving to Zurich

Hi all,

I thought Id post an update after all the help everyone gave me just t let you know how we got on.

After the first three weeks of absolutely soul destroying, frustrating and down right upsetting encounters all over the place, we have now finally moved into permanent accommodation in a fantastic area in an absolutely perfect apartment and everything is clicking into place nicely.

It hasn't been without its ups and downs , mostly downs Ill be honest, but by being on EF and persevering everything looks rosy and its all down to you guys.

I'm tempted to write a low by blow account of it somewhere, just so someone like me, who has just arrived and are in the same boat we were just mere weeks ago. Just the little things really that seem obvious once you know but really aren't. This might not be the place but I will deffo monitor the site and try to help others the way you helped me.
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