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Historical sale prices for home/land..

Hey, I once found a website where I could browse on the map or by address historical sale prices for homes/land here in Switzerland.... Any ideas where one could find such info online?
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

Pretty sure I asked the same question years ago... there's nothing like Zoopla (UK) here...
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

I can poke around GIS to see pricing... But I swear somewhere I saw this data... unsure where...
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

This ?

https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/mashup/show
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

Thats for sale asking prices, nothing to do with sale prices. In the Uk average Right Moves for sale price is about 30% higher than average sold price at the land registry. Clearly a lot of property never sells at kite flying asking prices.
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Thats for sale asking prices, nothing to do with sale prices. In the Uk average Right Moves for sale price is about 30% higher than average sold price at the land registry. Clearly a lot of property never sells at kite flying asking prices.
Funny stuff of Switzerland, the asking price is often the "base price" for bids...
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

A lot of the Gemeindes (at least here in German speaking part) have only got around to digitising their Grundbuchamt in the last year or so. When friends bought 18 months ago it was only available in paper format which explains the inability to pull together a national database. In addition the Swiss might consider this a data protection issue too...
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A lot of the Gemeindes (at least here in German speaking part) have only got around to digitising their Grundbuchamt in the last year or so. When friends bought 18 months ago it was only available in paper format which explains the inability to pull together a national database. In addition, the Swiss might consider this a data protection issue too...
If you go into GIS for Schaffhausen, it will show you the sale price the last time it moved and who owns it today... Ok for some properties, but not handy to really find out what my land is worth...

I asked the bank who shared a nice PDF, showing I overpaid 50k for it.. But two streets over the are selling something a little smaller for 1.8x my purchase price...

Hence my confusion... If someone is interested in 590sq meters in Schaffhausen, reach out.. :-)
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Yeah, this was it... Does help some...
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Funny stuff of Switzerland, the asking price is often the "base price" for bids...
Plenty of property never sells & is on the market for more than 10 years. Don't believe the hype.
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Plenty of property never sells & is on the market for more than 10 years. Don't believe the hype.
Probably as with everything.. location location location... Indeed, some towns have plenty while others none at all....
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Plenty of property never sells & is on the market for more than 10 years. Don't believe the hype.
That's not really accurate. Even properties way above market (40%+ markup to average) sell within less than a year. In the larger cities the time on market for average-priced residential properties is something ridiculously short like 30 days.

Credit Suisse do a pretty good job at documenting this in their Real Estate Market report, page 13.

So if you are looking to get a sense of pricing for properties in your area, the Comparis map is a decent indicator.
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That's not really accurate. Even properties way above market (40%+ markup to average) sell within less than a year. In the larger cities the time on market for average-priced residential properties is something ridiculously short like 30 days.

Credit Suisse do a pretty good job at documenting this in their Real Estate Market report, page 13.

So if you are looking to get a sense of pricing for properties in your area, the Comparis map is a decent indicator.
Market price has definitely fallen in Geneva, 40% selling within 1 year does not prove some properties don't sell over a very long period. 40% selling in a year seems very low no TBH
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

Other than new builds, many Swiss property sales never go on „the market“ and sell by vitamin B and word or mouth. So only the land registry will know for sure what prices are...
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Market price has definitely fallen in Geneva, 40% selling within 1 year does not prove some properties don't sell over a very long period. 40% selling in a year seems very low no TBH
where are you getting 40% selling within 1 year from?

Clearly all properties sell at a price; the lower the price the faster they would sell. What the report define as as "top price segment" is 50% above the market price, and even those sell on average within 174 days of being put on the market.
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Re: Historical sale prices for home/land..

Here is an article / graph showing the price development of single family houses in Switzerland since 1970. http://www.haus-und-wohnen.ch/de/bau...milienhaus.php
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Is there any possibility to find out what house prices sold in a given area? Based on this one can make an informed decision really if something is overpriced, or underpriced in the market. I know comparis has that barometer tool, but oddly it's not available for all listings on their system.
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Re: Historical house prices..?

AFAIK - no! Unlike the UK etc. The market is so small here, it's nearly no a market.

I have bought twice in Canton Zurich. It 2 years each time to find the right property. Intensive studying of Homegate should get one to become familiar with values...
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Re: Historical house prices..?

It would be interesting indeed, but it does not exist here.

But at the same time, depending on the area- it is not really relevant. I know houses in the Fribourg region that were 500.000 just 10 years ago and have trebled and more by now- same at the foot of the Jura. Whereas in some areas prices have dropped slighlty, or as here in the NE Jura where prices have gone up hugely in some areas, and been steady in others.

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Re: Historical house prices..?

In the areas I have been looking, there are so few houses for sale that honestly the only metric is: Can I afford it?

Because while you are researching historic prices - and all the rest of the due diligence points - a dozen other people will have bid, four of whom well over the asking price, and you have now been shut out.

The market in this area is nuts.

You sort of have to let go of the notion of fundamental value that many of us have used to assess properties elsewhere.

This is a problem, I'll grant you that. Given the utter insanity of the market, one can easily end up making bad decisions for one's personal situation, especially when you are talking about Swiss prices.

But bottom line, for a free standing house on a halfway decent sized plot there is always another buyer with deep pockets waiting in the wings.

My own personal rule: If I am unsure about anything, I walk away.

Of course, having bought the first house quickly and lived to regret it and so now using my personal rule I've been looking for 15 years, unsuccessfully. So grain o' salt, and all that.
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