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Serious Limescale build up on a loo

On our loo, above the waterline at the back, I have a serious build up of Calc/Limescale/Kalk. It is a few mm thick. I have attacked it with:

Durgol Surface, which normally does the trick. No luck. It is too thick. 20+ applications.

Antikal Kalkentfernung & schutz: Complete wate of money.

LimeLite leave on active gel (illegal import). No effect. This post 7/7 UK version is much weaker than previous versions.

Potz Calc Forte Cheapo spray on. Does do something, very very slowly, need respray every 10 mins. Will take 2 years, but best value spray on so far.

Mellerund Urin und Kalc Entferner Spezial Reiniger. Complete joke.

Migros White vinegar, painted on. Not doing much.
Broken deckchair: Had great fun during preparation, only good for 1mm or so kalc.

I tried blocking up the loo and using Javel Axxel tabs, and also
Hygo WC Power tabs x4. However, the water escapes after an hour, and the tabs need much longer.

Javel Axxel Classic tabs Works well overnight, and removed all under the waterline calc with 2 tabs.

In the UK recently, I used Kilrock-K, and warm water in the pan and it did a great job. 3 applications of that in a blocked up loo would do it, but I can't get comparable stuff here, and can't block the loo for long enough.

A really could do with some help on this one.
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Old 27.07.2008, 16:54
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Make a scraper out of something hard plastic , (old spatula ect) i used a broken slate from a balcony chair , don't use metal or you will leave marks .
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

TNT spells dynamite.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

But seriously not on a Sunday or after 10pm on a week day!!
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

I wanna see a photograph
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Thanks for taking such a serious interest TalkieToaster. Attached is a photo.

As you can see it is difficult to get a scraper to bite on any of it.

The TNT idea helped. If I Blow Up a balloon in the loo, I should be able to block it easily!
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

i can offer no assistance but wanted to express my awe at your commitment to your struggle! you make a freedom fighter look like a wimp!!! illegally importing toxic chemicals and all the rest, you really took the swiss view on cleanings things to death to heart...
that poor loo, it's like getting chemo for the cancer!
i'm in on the photo suggestion...
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Mr Muscle sink blockage cleaner will sort that out. Of course you're sourcing it outside the country
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Block up the toilet as best you can. Pour 5-6 bottles of the cheapest vinegar you can find into the pan and leave overnight. Next day scrape off the limescale with palette knife or something similar. Usually works wonders.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

I wonder how it got so bad? Is there a constant trickle of water down the affected section? The flush valve may be leaking.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

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On our loo, above the waterline at the back, I have a serious build up of Calc/Limescale/Kalk. It is a few mm thick. I have attacked it with:

Durgol Surface, which normally does the trick. No luck. It is too thick. 20+ applications.

Antikal Kalkentfernung & schutz: Complete wate of money.

LimeLite leave on active gel (illegal import). No effect. This post 7/7 UK version is much weaker than previous versions.

Potz Calc Forte Cheapo spray on. Does do something, very very slowly, need respray every 10 mins. Will take 2 years, but best value spray on so far.

Mellerund Urin und Kalc Entferner Spezial Reiniger. Complete joke.

Migros White vinegar, painted on. Not doing much.
Broken deckchair: Had great fun during preparation, only good for 1mm or so kalc.

I tried blocking up the loo and using Javel Axxel tabs, and also
Hygo WC Power tabs x4. However, the water escapes after an hour, and the tabs need much longer.

Javel Axxel Classic tabs Works well overnight, and removed all under the waterline calc with 2 tabs.

In the UK recently, I used Kilrock-K, and warm water in the pan and it did a great job. 3 applications of that in a blocked up loo would do it, but I can't get comparable stuff here, and can't block the loo for long enough.

A really could do with some help on this one.
Use kettle descaler and apply it hot.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Jekyll, Yes, there is a constant water trickle. So I am turning off the water, and then flushing to empty the cistern. The baloon blocked it up perfectly provided I applied a little weight to keep is squashed, but the tablets ate through the rubber in 15 mins. Will try one more baloon and only a couple of tabs. Perhaps vinegar is my best bet from a safety point of view.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Apparently a can of cola poured in and left overnight will clear it. That's according to Kim & Aggie, two women who do a UK telly program 'how clean is your house?' Probably works on acidity, same as vinegar.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

I just want to add that the balloon thing could be very dangerous, potentially spalshing corrosive cleaner, etc. You also need to think about how you will unblock the loo to let the cleaner out, without getting splashed.

If anyone knows a really strong brand of effective kettle descaler available here in CH, please let me know.

The latest attacks on the scale have weakened it, and a bit has come off with a plastic scraper.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

Pour two bottles of Tabasco chilli sauce on it and everything will be good as new.
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Re: Serious Limescale build up on a loo

I have heard of sandpaper/wet and dry paper being used to get limescale off toilets. Not sure how effective it would be on that amount of build up but mayber worth a try (even and electric sanding disc?).

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If you know someone who has access to lab chemicals (hint hint...) then try citric acid (powder form). Its very mild and won't damage the toilet but very effective in dissolving the calcium carbonate deposits.
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I have heard of sandpaper/wet and dry paper being used to get limescale off toilets. Not sure how effective it would be on that amount of build up but mayber worth a try (even and electric sanding disc?).

Metal objects and sandpaper are great ways to ruin the porcelain finish on a toilet..!
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Metal objects and sandpaper are great ways to ruin the porcelain finish on a toilet..!
You sound as if you have experience of sanitary fittings - what would you suggest to the OP?
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If you know someone who has access to lab chemicals (hint hint...) then try citric acid (powder form). Its very mild and won't damage the toilet but very effective in dissolving the calcium carbonate deposits.
Citric Acid is what you want, you can buy it from the pharmacy for descaling baby sterilisers.

It will easily do the job.
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