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Old 18.07.2019, 13:29
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Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

In my new place there's a fairly complex setup for heating/water/electric .. The last tenants had no clue, I asked them, they were simply happy that hot water came out when they had a shower.. The regie has no clue. The owner is not really involved, hasn't lived in the house for 20 years as i understand it and it's been completely renovated, changed etc since.
I'm more inquisitive, I want details..

Example : There are "solar panels" on the roof.. But it looks like insulated flexible pipes running from there. So maybe just heating water.. There are two electric meters. Underfloor heating upstairs, radiators downstairs.. there's oil fired boiler and huge storage tank.. I can see plumbing between the boiler and the swimming pool pumps, but it's also heated by big black panels.. There are another three pumps and loads of valves.. Thermostats in some rooms etc. It's a maze of pipes in the utility areas, even automated garden watering. .. I'm pretty tech but it's too complicated for me.

Right now, the underfloor heating is on, i think, i can feel some areas of floor mildly warm.. I have no clue how to switch it off.

Who do you get in to explain things? A plumber? Heating engineer? Electrician. All of the above?


** Sorry that ended up a bit long..
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Old 18.07.2019, 14:38
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Re: Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

This firm might answer all your queries in one go, as they specialise in regular heating/ solar panels.

http://www.vionnetsa.com/

Why not enquire with them, how much it would cost for one of their 'installateurs' to come and explain everything to you.

Even if they do not specialize as plumbers, they will know which pipe is for what and leads where.

It would be handy if you could lay your hands onto the original plans when the house was built too. Regie might have them.

Hope this helps a little
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Re: Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

Well you could pay somebody to come over, spend some hours looking at all and explaining all to you.

You could also look at brands/type numbers and google what everything is, if you know what parts there are it is simply following the pipes to know how it is all set-up.
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Old 18.07.2019, 15:23
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Well you could pay somebody to come over, spend some hours looking at all and explaining all to you.

You could also look at brands/type numbers and google what everything is, if you know what parts there are it is simply following the pipes to know how it is all set-up.
I've got about as far as I can with that.. I mean i know what all of the parts are and what they do - on paper, it's what it does for me i want to know better.

I have a utility with boiler etc, a whole bunch of pipes go into the wall there.. Some / all emerge in another room where there's a bank of pumps and regulators and UFH controls.. But again those head off elsewhere.. Add in the two electric meters and the 'solar panels' .. Apart from the utility and the pump area. Nothing is surface mounted so it's not possible to just follow a pipe from one place to another.

I'll try take a photo or two later.
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Old 19.07.2019, 07:32
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Re: Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

Here's a couple of pics.. just as an idea, there are many more pumps, switches, valves and dials elsewhere. The system has been built and added to over many years so it's multiple systems connected really.

First one i believe shows the pipes arriving from the solar panel, expansion tank, meter etc.. Apart from the meter being on, this seems to do nothing, it's cold and the pump is silent. How to activate it? What/who is the meter for? If it was active, how to switch between that and oil fired? etc.

Other two pump are for the heating, i see those connected to the underfloor pipes etc.. but the two red handles below? The orange thermostat? What about the other thermostats in rooms?

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Old 19.07.2019, 09:41
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Re: Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

Equipment is Tobler & Grundfoss, phone them up, find out who sells the equipment in your area, phone them up, pay for an hour of their time and learn how it works.


Alternatively look in Yellow Pages/Internet, find a heating engineer and got from their.


Do you own the house as if so you'll have to pay, if it's rented you should have instruction from the Landlord about the system or he should pay for somebody to explain it.
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Old 19.07.2019, 09:57
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Other two pump are for the heating, i see those connected to the underfloor pipes etc.. but the two red handles below? The orange thermostat? What about the other thermostats in rooms?

https://imgur.com/a/Gb2XkVm
The red handles have a mains power connection.

Without tracing the wires/pipes, it'd difficult to see the full picture but at a guess:

The red pump circuit on the left is the underfloor heating fed by the boiler.
The black pump circuit on the right is auxiliary hot water for the heating from the solar panels.
The two red switches are electric valves (with a manual over-ride) to regulate the flow from the solar or the boiler heated water circuits.

That white box attached to the pipe above the black pumps looks like an electrical thermostat for the solar circuit.
The orange one could also be a thermostat for the combined water from both circuits.
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Old 19.07.2019, 10:21
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Re: Who do you get to explain stuff - heating etc?

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The red handles have a mains power connection.

Without tracing the wires/pipes, it'd difficult to see the full picture but at a guess:

The red pump circuit on the left is the underfloor heating fed by the boiler.
The black pump circuit on the right is auxiliary hot water for the heating from the solar panels.
The two red switches are electric valves (with a manual over-ride) to regulate the flow from the solar or the boiler heated water circuits.

That white box attached to the pipe above the black pumps looks like an electrical thermostat for the solar circuit.
The orange one could also be a thermostat for the combined water from both circuits.
Yeah main boiler is feeding that red pump/the underfloor.. It's spinning and the pipes are hot. the black pump just to the right of it I believe is for the rest of the heating - radiators downstairs.. Those are all switched off and thus, that pump is doing nothing at the moment.

The solar is the mystery here, I believe the solar is the white box with the two insulated pipes coming out of the top and heading left (up a void to the roof space) there's another same type pump in that box, it's doing nothing, the expansion tank and pipes are cold. But the meter is on.

I think the answer is to bring in a local heating company..Great result if they know the system already, else they can work it out.
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