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Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

Dear All,

I am moving out/handing over an apartment in Basel Stadt (Voltaplatz) back to the management agency LIVIT. I've lived there for 6 years and took really good care of the apartment. Thus I would like to get all of my deposit back. Please share your experiences and suggestions.

Thank you in advance!
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Old 27.07.2019, 15:57
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

1. Clean really well, or hire a professional cleaner with a handover guarantee.
2. Join Mieterverband and have a representative there with you for the handover.
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

4. If you do choose to do the cleaning yourself, start well ahead of the time.
5. Be sure to clean on top of, underneath, inside and behind everything.
6. Have a bucket and a set of cleaning materials with you on the hand-over day, so that you can immediately remedy anything that is found lacking.
7. Before the hand-over day, go though your papers and find the Mangelliste (list of defects) which should have been drawn up when you moved in. Have a look whether, since that first day, you ever subsequently reported any defects. When the inspection takes place, point out that you have documents to show that these are not your responsibility.
8. If you know of defects other than those in 7. above, try to fix them beforehand.
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

Get a cleaning company with a "Abnahmegarantie".

I lived once in basel stadt,as i moved out 3 people from livit checked every tiny
bit, it was disgusting.
Meeting their expectations wasn't an option.
You can't argue with 3 people at the same time.
You have to pay, one way or the other.
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

We had an apartment in Basel with Welinvest for 2 years. When we found a new place to move to the agent came to take photos for the listing and I asked him what we needed to do in terms of leaving things in good order. I was told to just make sure any surfaces were wiped and things like the kitchen cupboards and drawers were wiped out, also that the floors were vaccumed swept. They charged a standard 560CHF fee for cleaning on vacating which we were fine with. Cleaning was done by the caretaker who was our next door neighbour. however, I did leave it as clean as possible.

There was also a standard 50CHF fee for cleaning the oven which was classed as coming under small repairs, but the agent waived it as he said we were leaving the flat in such good condition. He joked it was like we had taken on the lease then moved into a hotel
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

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2. Join Mieterverband and have a representative there with you for the handover.

I second that, a good option. Clearly makes/leaves another impression on landlords side if a representant of the mieterverband is present. I think you even don't have to be member, you may "rent" such a representative for a fee.


To know is also that there are "amortisation" durations for the various parts of a flat. Wall painting for example is 10 years. Supposed there has to be done work on that, since you were 6 years in (and nothing was done by the landlord in the meantime), you're "responible" only for 40% of the costs.
https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...ertabelle.html
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

Hi All... I meant to report back that the move out went flawlessly. LIVIT team was very reasonable and I got my deposit back. But.... I meticulously cleaned and prepared the appartment for a handover. Sorry I write this so long after the event but hopefully still useful for someone.
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

Glad it was all OK. I accidentally damaged a shelf in one of our kitchen cupboards at the place we had in Kleinbasel, but OH replaced it with one he had cut to size in Jumbo DIY at Clarastrasse and the agent was fine about it.

I find renting in Switzerland is a whole different ball game to Britain. I rent a small flat out in Scotland, fully managed by a letting agent on my behalf. It's a nightmare at times because everything is weighted in favour of the tenants, even if they leave the place in a total mess. I had one who refused to cover the cost of cleaning the mess she'd made and who left owing 2 weeks rent and there was nothing I could do. Unknown to me she was looking after he BF's huge dog at the property (I have a no pets rule as it's a main door flat above a shop with no garden), and it gouged all the commercial grade oak flooring I'd had laid, yet I had to give her the deposit back
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Glad it was all OK. I accidentally damaged a shelf in one of our kitchen cupboards at the place we had in Kleinbasel, but OH replaced it with one he had cut to size in Jumbo DIY at Clarastrasse and the agent was fine about it.

I find renting in Switzerland is a whole different ball game to Britain. I rent a small flat out in Scotland, fully managed by a letting agent on my behalf. It's a nightmare at times because everything is weighted in favour of the tenants, even if they leave the place in a total mess. I had one who refused to cover the cost of cleaning the mess she'd made and who left owing 2 weeks rent and there was nothing I could do. Unknown to me she was looking after he BF's huge dog at the property (I have a no pets rule as it's a main door flat above a shop with no garden), and it gouged all the commercial grade oak flooring I'd had laid, yet I had to give her the deposit back
Yes, there was/is. If you know where she's moved to you can make a claim in the Small Claims court for the outstanding rent and maybe the costs of cleaning up her mess. If the ruling is in your favour and she still doesn't pay you can take it to the High Court and get the Sheriffs involved. They have more powers than a bailiff and are pretty good at getting payments out of people.
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Re: Move-out experience with LIVIT in Basel Stadt

It was about 5 years ago now. Found out afterwards she was also using the place as a party flat because she was stupid enough to put photos all over her FB page and I recognised the interior by the livingroom blinds. I'd previously had 2 sets of really great tenants who took care of the place as it's a nice flat inside (I'm also very prompt when it comes to approving repairs).

The guy who's there at the moment is a teacher, but when he moves out I'm considering selling it. Within the next couple of years it'll need a refurb anyway.
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