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Old 19.08.2019, 18:09
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Re: House Renovation - Maximum legal noise level

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Apparently, the new kitchen will not be installed until end September!
Unless the renovations have been ongoing for many months, this does not seem out of line.

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a couple of workmen have told me that the renovation will take longer than anticipated, due to the fact that often a repair is much more complicated and time-consuming than originally thought.
Almost every renovation takes longer and is more expensive that first thought. You learn this - the hard way I should add - when you do one yourself. Even with plenty of planning, issues arise or opportunities come along and both require flexibility and extra cash and time. I feel like I should have got a survivors medal for doing ours! So also, just saying, see it from the owner point of view as well. They are simply trying to make a nice place to live in - and not out to get you.
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Old 19.08.2019, 18:55
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Our gardeners got told off by our Syndic for making noise during the lunch hour. I expect your village has similar rules, you just need to ensure that they are aware of them. It appears these rules over rule the agricultural rules.
Not if it's zoned as agricultural (or industrial) land.

We have farms near us, they can do as they please.

My employer has industrial zoning in the same village, I can do as I please, even on Sundays.

We have a rustico in the woods 4 km away, I can run my chainsaw on Sundays and holidays as the nearest neighbor is 1km+.

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Re: House Renovation - Maximum legal noise level

Hi, I have been reading the whole thread here. I'm in a similar situation, but from the other side - I'm the one renovating and constantly being stopped by.. well... everyone!

First it was the PPE (administration of the building) as the neighbours complained of the noise. We had to stop, arrange a visit from a local architect who said - we need to fix few things, but overall all is ok and we can work. They even said that maybe there is azbest (amiante) there, which we checked and nothing was there. 10 days of delay (for a swiss reality that was super fast)... The administration informed everyone in the building, attached the report from the architect with a description of what should be done and when. We asked if we need to inform anyone else, they said no.

2 weeks later - commune (city) is writing to us that we need to stop as the neighbours are complaining... And this is where I am right now. Just to add - this is a building with 10 flats, we all co-own the building and I am the youngest in this building (I think the average is like 70). In the letter the commune sent it only says that we need to stop because of the noise that bothers the neighbours, but there is no legal ground given... We told them that we will stop the noisy works, but we will continue to paint the walls and to put the wooden floor till they review our case. Yesterday my husband called them (2nd time, 3 days after the original letter) and they said that the neighbours are still complaining about the noise... Next Tuesday they should give us an answer, and it doesn't look that they are in a good mood... Commune said that it is illegal what we do (????)

BUT - we called the canton (Vaud) and they said that the commune over-interpreted the law and as long as we do not touch the outside of the building, we are fine and don't need any permission from the commune... I have requested to have that in writing. And we only do the inside renovation, accordingly to the local regulations.

Now I'm puzzled (and super stressed). We need to move in literally in 1 week and I cannot afford any more work breaks. I can understand that because of this virus, people are more agitated and stay at home so any level of noise bothers them. But we started the work in the 2nd half of Feb and that includes the break we have already had.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Can the commune give us a ban if we only renovate the inside part of the apartment? if they can - what are the repercussions? Fine? How to fight it? Shall I engage a lawyer?

I don't want to fight with everyone, I plan to live for many years... I cannot even talk to the neighbours as they never open the door (like they were not there)...
Any advice would be extremely appreciated... Thank you and good luck with the virus...
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Old 21.03.2020, 12:12
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Re: House Renovation - Maximum legal noise level

AfaIk renovation noise has to be accepted (so does building noise in the neighbourhood) but you must stick to the hours. The times are visible in the Police Ordinance of the community. General rule is you can work from 7-12 and 13-19h (the community rule may differ). And not on Sundays/holidays.

The main mistake you might have made is not to inform the neighbours about how long the work/noise will take. It is easier to suffer, when one knows how long the suffering will go on.

You say you will move in next week. Does that mean the flat would be ready by then (the noisy parts done)?. Then you should communicate this - rather late than never.
Did the neighbours complain to you before they complained to the community? If so, how did you react? If possible, try to concentrate the loud work to certain hours and tell the neighbours about them.

That's m 5cents.

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Re: House Renovation - Maximum legal noise level

I wouldn't advise buying a flat in Switzerland and doing major renovations. Painting walls, flooring and a quick DIY new bathroom/kitchen kit should be about it. Otherwise I would say get a house. When your "family" expands with a new hobby: unusual pets, piano or motorbike, neighbours like that are a real pain.
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