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Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

Hi everyone.

First post on the forum but I've been enviously reading for a while as my husband and I have dreamed of moving to Switzerland for a while.
My husband has potentially got a job in Olten. Anyone know anything about it? I get the impression it might be quite small and sleepy? Any ex pat community? We are both learning German but neither of us our fluent yet so at least at first we'd like to have a few English speaking friends! We don't need to be in a bustling city, our interesta are mainly hiking with our kids (2 and 3), swimming, snowboarding, and spending lots of time in nature. However I do want to make sure I am somewhere I'll find playgroups, and other things to do with the kids.
We are wondering if Olten is too small and therefore we should commute. We were originally thinking Zurich but can see from.Homegate we could get a lot more for our money at Lucerne. Any opinions on which would be best for us? It looks like a 45 minute commute, this seems doable for us but are we crazy?
As an aside, not sure if it's relevent, we are a mixed race couple. I am white and my husband has Asian heritage. From my research it seemed this wouldn't be an issue in Switzerland but wasn't sure about the more rural areas.

Also finally help settle a silly debate! I say that being quite a conservative country my husband should shave off his beard for the interview. My husband wasn't to keep it! Votes please!

Sorry for the essay! Any info at all would be great!
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help settle a silly debate! I say that being quite a conservative country my husband should shave off his beard for the interview. My husband wasn't to keep it! Votes please!
How long is it?
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How long is it?
Um...,..definately beard not stubble territory. Not sure how to describe beard length lol. Maybe a couple of inches......not hanging down off his face yet Hes dark so it's quite full and bushy though! Maybe I just have an ulterior motive in getting rid.......

Also sorry, just noticed all the typos in my post, typing with toddlers climbing on me!
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

I wouldn't say that the Swiss fuss much about facial hair, but what would be more observed in this society is that everything is precisely and painstakingly groomed... On the French side beards are quite "in" at the moment. Can't say much about Olten though

But it may matter on what business and level of seniority you are talking about. I've not seen many doctors or senior lawyers with a beard - but software engineers aplenty.
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

Lucerne has many, many tourists. That can be fun, to start with, and you'll never lack strangers to whom to speak English, but the numbers are now at least sufficiently troublesome that the City has decided to look for ways to crack down on the many AirBnB hosts, because they make it easier for yet more tourists to stay overnight, and make it harder for those who wish to live locally to find affordable accommodation.

Olten has the advantage of being in one of the major junctions of public transport, giving easy access in all directions, to Basel, Solothurn and beyond that Biel, Bern, Lucerne and Zurich, and of course to Aarau which is, so to speak, right next to Olten.
Have a look here: https://geoblog.ch/110-die-ov-schweiz/
As such, Olten is a great starting point for exploring Switzerland.

This map shows the terrain, on which you could zoom in to Olten to see that you (and the children) could potentially manage a lot by bicycle, there:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sw...227512!5m1!1e4
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

As the potential job offer is in Olten, you should be looking for accommodaton in Solothurn kanton, and as you have two little ones, I'd narrow it down to the immediate area around Olten so that your husband has a short commute and you don't begin to feel isolated. You will need each other close at hand whilst you adjust. Another advantage of Olten is that the apartments are a lot cheaper there than the larger cities. You'll be looking at 1,350 - 2,650 for a 3 bedroom (4.5 rooms) ground floor apartment within 2km of Olten...

https://en.comparis.ch/immobilien/re...null%7D&sort=1

I don't know a lot about Olten, but my impression is that it's a small industrial city set close to beautiful countryside. As for being sleepy, one of my friends came over from the UK to attend a death metal gig in Olten Hipster beards are a thing in Switzerland too, and particularly in Zurich, lots of barbers do beard grooming, etc. As has been said, it all depends on the role and interviewers.

Mixed marriages are so common here that I seriously doubt you'll have any issue. I know several Swiss adults who are the children of mixed marriages, mainly because their fathers worked abroad in the 1990s. You need to remember that about 25% of the population here are not Swiss, particularly in industrial areas such as Zurich.

Good luck and I hope your husband gets the job.
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I wouldn't say that the Swiss fuss much about facial hair, but what would be more observed in this society is that everything is precisely and painstakingly groomed...
I think full beards including longer ones are absolutely accepted in Switzerland and not a problem for a job interview. Especially in Olten...

Simple rules on how to differentiate between bearded hipster and islamistic terrorists:
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

Olten's old town is actually quite lovely, and they have a great Badi (outdoor swimming pool). The rest of Olten is not that nice, but it has the advantage of being really well connected by train to everywhere else. Another really nice place for a family near Olten would be Zofingen. Absolutely lovely, quaint little town, that has lots to offer to a family. Lucerne is technically commutable, but you likely would not live right next to the main station, adding to your commute, I think it is too far. Aarburg might be an option, too, but stay away from Oftringen.
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Um...,..definately beard not stubble territory. Not sure how to describe beard length lol. Maybe a couple of inches......not hanging down off his face yet Hes dark so it's quite full and bushy though! Maybe I just have an ulterior motive in getting rid
Personally I think it should be groomed back to stubble territory. I think a longer beard doesn't make the best of impressions, at least not for a new job.
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

About the beard: I think it depends a lot on the job, as dandi said.

If the work is in a very creative environment: film, art, theatre, music, advertising, etc., then a more wild beard is okay. More trimmed and shorter, the more formal the environment.

In any case: the man's hairstyle and clothing, incl. shoes, can also go a long way towards the impression he makes. The most important is that he looks CLEAN.

If his shirt is ironed perfectly and his finger-nails are clipped neatly, and if his haircut is modern and chic, he can get away with a longer beard. If he has long hair that he ties back in a pony-tail, or even wears open, and his clothing is casual, then he can less afford to have a long or bushy beard, too.
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

Is your husband also English? If so, then atm you could live in another canton and commute. If he's not though and possibly depending on what happens with Brexit you might be limited to Solothurn canton. Living elsewhere would require getting permission from both cantons to do so.
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Also finally help settle a silly debate! I say that being quite a conservative country my husband should shave off his beard for the interview.
It sounds like you are counting your chickens before they hatch. It is just an interview, there is no guarantee he will get the job. But I do hope for your sake that he does!
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

I have lived in Olten the past year. I had planned to stay here for a couple of months initially as it is close to my work and the move to Basel or Zürich. However, the town is bigger than I had initially anticipated. The old town is quite nice and the outdoor swimming pool was a lovely surprise during teh summer. That said it isn't as beautiful as some of the other towns but the big advantage I have found is it is so well connected to the surrounding cities with Bern, Basel, Luzern and Zürich within 30 mins.
I decided to stay here for this reason, I was able to go to any of the aformentioned cities at the weekends or for any evening events that may arise as well as being able to get from Olten to some of my favourite hiking/ running trails at the weekend much quicker from Olten than from Zürich or Basel.
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

I work in Olten and have a long commute daily, will consider moving next year to reduce the commute. As mentioned, the old town is nice, and I have a great view of the river, old bridge and hills from my office. Best view I have every had in any job.
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I'm glad to hear Olten's reputation is improving.
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Re: Job in Olten, to stay or commute from Zurich or Lucerne!

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I live very close to Olten (its 12min with the bus to the main station and 5/6 minutes with the car) and commute daily to Zürich and before I was working in Basel and used to commute to there as well. Like many have said, the connections are very good if you want to visit those cities.
I'm originally from Belgium so, Olten doesnt strike me as ugly or dull.
But I agree with one of the people here saying its better to rent for a year and see how it feels and if you like the see. Luzern is much more beautiful but you have to calculate the train costs which are very high in Switzerland.
In Olten, having a beard and having an asian type will not be an issue from my point of view as there are many caucasion here these are mostly from the balkan countries and mind their own business.
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