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Bathroom Door Damage

I just found there is a big hole(lower corner) at the back of bathroom door. Pretty sure it is not caused by me. However, I moved in 6 months before, so the 'notice period' has past...

My contact shows that: Versicherungsprämien(insurance) is included in the Nebenkosten(rent), so in this case, should I report this issue to my rental agency?

I was worry that if I do not report, they going to charge me crazy when I move out. However, if I do report, they going to charge me now(I mean, the insurance in within the rent, can they charge me for repair?)..........Any advice?
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

I have never before heard of an insurance premium's being part of the Nebenkosten.
Could you perhaps type up the sentence that sets that out, so we could know what insurance that is?
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

Could you perhaps post a photo of the big hole? Maybe someone here could give you good advice about how you might be able to repair it yourself.

EdwinNL recently posted useful tips on how to make the photo small enough to post, here:
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

Thanks doropfiz, I have put the picture in attachment. Well, the hole doesn't look like a normal wear-and-tear situation that my agency will consider. I do not have personal liability insurance, and considering I will move out in approximately 6 months. So, not sure about the need to have it right now...should I just be honest and report everything to my agency? so confused...Any advice?
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

Are they likely to spot it when you hand back the flat?
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Are they likely to spot it when you hand back the flat?
Yes, very likely, if the inspection is done with the usual thoroughness.

But I would think you could repair it yourself, well enough, beforehand, so it won't be an issue.

The door looks like it is made of wood, and then painted. Possibly it is hollow. Just fill it. Especially since you are not in a rush, you can probably get it done nicely.

Make a tiny quantity of filler from very finely shredded white toilet-paper, very little water, and some drops of liquid white wood-glue or paper-glue. Mash that up in an egg-cup with your fingers, and the back of a teaspoon, till it is mushy and sticky. Then squash a layer of that into the hole. Use an earbud or a matchstick to push the filler right back into the furtherest recesses of that hole.

Don't fill the whole hole up in one go. Just give it time to dry, at least 24 hours. Then make another mini-quantity of the mush, and repeat. Wait. Repeat. When you get to the final layer, make sure you smooth over this filler with a completely flat object (like a plastic ruler) so that the filler sets level with the door-paint. Wipe off any of the filler that your ruler has transported over the undamaged paint.

Once that is completely dry, and completely flat, you can touch up the whiteness to be a close match to the shade of white of the door-paint. For this, you don't need to buy paint. Just work creatively with a white felt-tipped pen, or a white crayon, or tippex (white-out). If you need to make it a little more grey, you can add ash from the tip of a burnt match. If you need to make it a little more yellow, you can shave a tiny quantity off a yellow pencil crayon, and mix that into a drop of tippex.

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Yes, very likely, if the inspection is done with the usual thoroughness.
Depends how thorough. I had one which was not that thorough and something was missed and it was to my advantage, hence me asking. Could be good not to say anything as there is always a chance it will be missed. And, even if it is not, the charge is not going to be any higher if it is repaired by them now or later,
But yes, if it can be repaired without them knowing, then better still.
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I have never before heard of an insurance premium's being part of the Nebenkosten.
Could you perhaps type up the sentence that sets that out, so we could know what insurance that is?
I attached the picture of Nebenkosten, the last line: Versicherungsprämien, well, I assume it is the insurance. Or not? Apologize for figure, its not that clear...
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How old is the door?
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Are they likely to spot it when you hand back the flat?
Well, clearly, I did not even see that for months......
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the last line: Versicherungsprämien
Could be the building insurance (not contents) or the insurance for the caretaker.
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

Go down to your local doit and pick up some auto putty
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

It just says insurance premium. It doesn't say what the insurance covers.

When we moved out of a rented property, we put our liability insurance number on the handover form. All damages were paid by them (less excess).
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No idea....but I have contacted the girl who lived here before me, she rent the place for about 5.5 years, no repair when I moved in, so I guess, the door should be at least 6 years.
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Re: Bathroom Door Damage

Just fix it yourself, as I exlpained above, or with robBob's suggestion of bought putty (though I wouldn't bother with that, myself). It will be the cheapest option, and probably that will the least stress.
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Could be the building insurance (not contents) or the insurance for the caretaker.
Yep, might be, I am not that sure
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It just says insurance premium. It doesn't say what the insurance covers.

When we moved out of a rented property, we put our liability insurance number on the handover form. All damages were paid by them (less excess).
You are right, I do not think this insurance performs like private liability one.
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Just fix it yourself, as I exlpained above, or with robBob's suggestion of bought putty (though I wouldn't bother with that, myself). It will be the cheapest option, and probably that will the least stress.
Any advice on how?
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Any advice on how?
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Yes, very likely, if the inspection is done with the usual thoroughness.

But I would think you could repair it yourself, well enough, beforehand, so it won't be an issue.

The door looks like it is made of wood, and then painted. Possibly it is hollow. Just fill it. Especially since you are not in a rush, you can probably get it done nicely.

Make a tiny quantity of filler from very finely shredded white toilet-paper, very little water, and some drops of liquid white wood-glue or paper-glue. Mash that up in an egg-cup with your fingers, and the back of a teaspoon, till it is mushy and sticky. Then squash a layer of that into the hole. Use an earbud or a matchstick to push the filler right back into the furtherest recesses of that hole.

Don't fill the whole hole up in one go. Just give it time to dry, at least 24 hours. Then make another mini-quantity of the mush, and repeat. Wait. Repeat. When you get to the final layer, make sure you smooth over this filler with a completely flat object (like a plastic ruler) so that the filler sets level with the door-paint. Wipe off any of the filler that your ruler has transported over the undamaged paint.

Once that is completely dry, and completely flat, you can touch up the whiteness to be a close match to the shade of white of the door-paint. For this, you don't need to buy paint. Just work creatively with a white felt-tipped pen, or a white crayon, or tippex (white-out). If you need to make it a little more grey, you can add ash from the tip of a burnt match. If you need to make it a little more yellow, you can shave a tiny quantity off a yellow pencil crayon, and mix that into a drop of tippex.
thanx doropfiz, very well explained! I will seriously consider it.
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