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Phil_MCR 09.09.2019 16:02

Planning permission: velux windows
 
Anyone here put in velux windows into the roof? I'm looking at doing this and wondered whether this requires planning permission (assuming not a protected roof)? Also interested to hear experiences on costs...

Today only 09.09.2019 16:35

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 3099069)
Anyone here put in velux windows into the roof? I'm looking at doing this and wondered whether this requires planning permission (assuming not a protected roof)? Also interested to hear experiences on costs...


Yes, you do need permission but it is usually "adminsitative" ie, you give the commune the file, pay and everybody is happy. If you have neighbors with direct line of sight, get them to sign off on your plans.



Cost, about Chf 2'500-3'000.-- per window, fitted if i rmember rightly.


Not worth going for tripple glaze apparantly double is more than sufficient for smallish openings.


Time, about 1 day to fit

Phil_MCR 09.09.2019 16:40

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
Thanks. I recall a quote for UK fitting of 500, so the Swiss mark-up seems in the range :D

I managed to find a price list for 'building approvals' for my gemeinde. It seems that everything needs to be approved, no matter how basic, and everything incurs a cost.

roegner 09.09.2019 16:42

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
When you order them, you can also buy the fitting blinds as I found that a pain to install afterwards.

Phil_MCR 09.09.2019 16:53

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3099077)
When you order them, you can also buy the fitting blinds as I found that a pain to install afterwards.

Thanks. I saw some quite fancy stuff including integrated external roller blinds etc. but the whole purpose is to get as much additional light into the rooms, so no plans for blinds right now :)

Today only 09.09.2019 17:00

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 3099083)
Thanks. I saw some quite fancy stuff including integrated external roller blinds etc. but the whole purpose is to get as much additional light into the rooms, so no plans for blinds right now :)


Be careful of too much sun....you can get a double blind for sun and darkeness which is good.


GBP500.-- .....Does this include cost of Window ?



To my recollection the window cost abour Chf 1k.-- + Chf 1.5k for fitting, ie de-tilining, cutting hole in roof, fitting and securing window, copper work outside, water-proofing, cutting and replacing tiles, finsihing on inside with wood, fitting of blind.


I didn't find Chf 2.5-3k so exspenive and the benfits were well worth it.


To do it yourself is possible but you wound need to be good at DIY...

Cherub 09.09.2019 17:38

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
I have 2 in my house back in Scotland, one in the kitchen and one in the upstairs bathroom. It's above the bath so you can lie back and look up at the stars when it's dark.

Tom1234 09.09.2019 17:52

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Today only (Post 3099092)
Be careful of too much sun....you can get a double blind for sun and darkeness which is good.

Agreed with this - we've got a small south-facing one in a bathroom and the sun-blind is down most of the summer. Without it, the room is unpleasantly hot and the hot air moves to other rooms too.

Phil_MCR 09.09.2019 18:20

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
Now you guys have got me paranoid about being baked in the room, so may go for the fancy automated shutters after all (window will be too high up to reach).

Tom1234 09.09.2019 18:24

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 3099128)
Now you guys have got me paranoid about being baked in the room, so may go for the fancy automated shutters after all (window will be too high up to reach).

We have to reach ours with a "special" stick. Because of that, it tends to stay closed in the summer and people have to turn on the light to see. Totally pointless.

I'd definitely think about some automation if you can't reach them.

meloncollie 09.09.2019 18:28

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
Another vote for blinds in a roof window.

Our top floor gets mighty hot in summer. Without shades when the sun starts beating down it can be almost unlivable.

I didn't get the built-in blinds on our Dachfenster, and sort of regret it. I made sheers for the window and they are fine - but I think the blinds would have been easier to deal with.

Phil_MCR 09.09.2019 18:30

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3099129)
We have to reach ours with a "special" stick. Because of that, it tends to stay closed in the summer and people have to turn on the light to see. Totally pointless.

I'd definitely think about some automation if you can't reach them.

My parents have one and the special stick broke. Luckily they have a remote control... at least they did until the toddler got her hands on it and managed to reset something.

I had to spend the best part of an hour on a ladder figuring out how to manually open the window and reset the window and remote control...

Unfortunately, my window will be even higher so will need to remember to keep the remote control locked away from kids. :D

Today only 09.09.2019 19:25

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 3099133)
My parents have one and the special stick broke. Luckily they have a remote control... at least they did until the toddler got her hands on it and managed to reset something.

I had to spend the best part of an hour on a ladder figuring out how to manually open the window and reset the window and remote control...

Unfortunately, my window will be even higher so will need to remember to keep the remote control locked away from kids. :D




The special stick is made of aluminum and they are widely available and also very easy to make yourself ;)


Automation is good, but it makes the Velux far more expensive and you also need to have a power supply close by.......

Tom1234 09.09.2019 20:28

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Originally Posted by Today only (Post 3099152)
The special stick is made of aluminum and they are widely available and also very easy to make yourself ;)

According to Velux, it's called a "Control bar". It's still a stick.

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Originally Posted by Today only (Post 3099152)
Automation is good, but it makes the Velux far more expensive and you also need to have a power supply close by.......

This thread got me interested so I had a look. You can can a solar-powered operated blind for your velux windows.

roegner 09.09.2019 20:32

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3099163)
This thread got me interested so I had a look. You can can a solar-powered operated blind for your velux windows.

That is good to know, need to install 2 blinds and that is a nice solution

Mrs. Doolittle 09.09.2019 21:16

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
I highly recommend a visit to the Velux showroom.

https://www.velux.ch/de/planung-einb...gen-fachmessen

Was there years ago with our landlord who wanted to make the tenants happy and was unsure of the best solution for the existing Velux windows.

I am not a fan of roof windows but if you are going to install them, consider a rain sensor. A remote makes sense if you cannot reach them.

Personally I prefer a "lukarne", dormer window. We have 2 roof windows, within reach so nothing is electric. We replaced the original Velux windows a few years ago. Outside I installed roller screens to block sunlight, but they are not blackout. Inside we have venetians, and insect screens. A rain sensor would have been useful as you cannot leave these windows open at all in the rain.

Today only 09.09.2019 22:36

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3099164)
That is good to know, need to install 2 blinds and that is a nice solution




Fantastic, providing their is sun when you want to open/close blind and their is no snow obscuring the solar panel.


What happens when you want to shut the blind to avoid being woken by strong sunlight in the morning once their is no more sun ?

krlock3 10.09.2019 10:17

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Today only (Post 3099152)
Automation is good, but it makes the Velux far more expensive and you also need to have a power supply close by.......

I have the solar powered rollers on my roof windows. very happy and negates the need for interior blinds.

krlock3 10.09.2019 10:31

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Doolittle (Post 3099171)
I am not a fan of roof windows but if you are going to install them, consider a rain sensor. A remote makes sense if you cannot reach them.

Depends on location and usage. If high up out of reach, yes, maybe.

However, mine are within reach, and the rain sensor would mean that the windows only open about 10 inches on a rather ungly chain mechanism. Mine I can open as wide as I like .... there is always the risk that I forget to close them during a rainstorm, and i'll probably change my mind once that happens! but until then, I would not want the rain sensor type windows.

AbFab 10.09.2019 11:05

Re: Planning permission: velux windows
 
I've been running a solar-powered Velux outside blind with remote control for 11 years without problem.

In summer we set the blind about 10cms open to keep the sun's heat out.

In winter it has to fight a bit with snow and particularly ice. But it's a robust reliable accessory by Velux...


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