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DIY advise for lamps

Hi everyone,

I would like to construct something like this pendulum light fixture shown in the attached photo, from 2 individual lamps that I bought. Any ideas where I can find such a metal bar that connects them as shown in the photo?
The only idea I have so far is a U shaped aluminum profile which I can spray paint black...
Any other suggestions would be highly appreciated..

Thanks a lot
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Hi everyone,

I would like to construct something like this pendulum light fixture shown in the attached photo, from 2 individual lamps that I bought. Any ideas where I can find such a metal bar that connects them as shown in the photo?
The only idea I have so far is a U shaped aluminum profile which I can spray paint black...
Any other suggestions would be highly appreciated..

Thanks a lot
All kinds of solutions.

Kabelführung

all form and sizes, look for Kabelkanal - you could spray them any color you like.
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Re: DIY advise for lamps

Thanks a lot for your response.. However I am not sure this will do.. Cause it needs to somehow support the weight of the 2 hanging lamps and I dont see how this Kabelkanal will do it. I was thinking more something like this https://products.alfer.com/en/Produc.../Square-U.html
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Thanks a lot for your response.. However I am not sure this will do.. Cause it needs to somehow support the weight of the 2 hanging lamps and I dont see how this Kabelkanal will do it. I was thinking more something like this https://products.alfer.com/en/Produc.../Square-U.html
The "Kabelführung" link of mine (amazon) is aluminium too.

How will you mount yours on the ceiling?

The lamps are usually held by a hook in the hole where you also connect the cables. But if you want the rod to hold the weight, you would better go for steal. Look for "Rechteckrohre".
Here is a supplier for example.
In my opinion they should be going all around - as I mentioned, I don't know how you would want to mount your example on the ceiling.
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If you go for a "Rechteckrohre" you could make openings in the top so you can slide it unto the ceiling on screws, if you do this well you even have it tight to the ceiling. Openings like you find on the back of many equipment normally used to slide on screws in the wall, but on the ceiling works as great, and best of all it will be invisible to the eye so looks smooth.

How to hang your lamps on it depends on what exact lamps you want, if you have a link to them I can give you a method.
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Go to a metal store , or even a bigger DIY shop and you’ll be surprised how many metal profiles of different sizes and shapes they have .
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Re: DIY advise for lamps

Another potential thing to look at may be curtain rails . They are typically very strong as curtains can be heavy and tend to get pulled . On the other hand they are also light so easy to mount. Easy to cut to length and the place you fix the lamp can easily be adjusted . I’m thinking of the hollow box cross section type that should also have enough space to hide cables and things
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Thanks a lot for your response.. However I am not sure this will do.. Cause it needs to somehow support the weight of the 2 hanging lamps and I dont see how this Kabelkanal will do it.
It's aluminum, so no problem.

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Make sure you earth the metal rod.
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Re: DIY advise for lamps

I would advice against spray painting aluminium. Paint doesn't adhere well to aluminium, as it quickly oxidizes in contact with air, and forms a very very very thin layer of oxide that will warp the paint in no time. To paint you would have to etch the surface and immediately apply a primer. It's a nightmare.

I would suggest you search for already black-anodized profiles or channels.
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I would advice against spray painting aluminium. Paint doesn't adhere well to aluminium, as it quickly oxidizes in contact with air, and forms a very very very thin layer of oxide that will warp the paint in no time. To paint you would have to etch the surface and immediately apply a primer. It's a nightmare.
And that is why there are self-etching primers
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Just go buy a light already done, far cheaper, far nicer, far safer
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Just use candles and forget this electrical lighting fad!
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Just stay in the dark. A LOT more fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSznpyG9CHY
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No reason at all to assume that a shop-bought lamp is safer.

I've been fitting a lot of lamps recently, sometimes including fitting of wiring into existing circuits, sometimes also including provision of replacement or new wall sockets/switches, and the potential for unsafe installation is there in equal measure wherever the lamp is sourced.

I do agree with the principle (for electrics) of "if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it" but on the other hand you can only learn these things if you make the attempt at some point.
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Re: DIY advise for lamps

What about those so called Schienensysteme like the U-Rail from Paulman? https://www.lampenwelt.ch/u-rail/?gc...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Do you think I can adapt any lamp to work with this system by attaching an adaptor to it? Maybe if not with this specific one there is another in the market that can fit any lamp..?
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What about those so called Schienensysteme like the U-Rail from Paulman? https://www.lampenwelt.ch/u-rail/?gc...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Do you think I can adapt any lamp to work with this system by attaching an adaptor to it? Maybe if not with this specific one there is another in the market that can fit any lamp..?
Using an existing rail system like the one in your link would be the neatest, safest and most straightforward way of doing things.

We had another system in our old kitchen which was easy to fit and had a black bar too. Easy-tec 2

You never stated where your lamps were 220V or 12V. You could use 12V bulbs in a 220V lamp (with a 12V rail) but I'd be careful going the other way.
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What about those so called Schienensysteme like the U-Rail from Paulman? https://www.lampenwelt.ch/u-rail/?gc...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Do you think I can adapt any lamp to work with this system by attaching an adaptor to it? Maybe if not with this specific one there is another in the market that can fit any lamp..?
May be you can go to Hornbach and check with them? We use Paulmann, but we bought their lamps as well, so ...
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