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Commuting from Germany to Luzern

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I am new in Switzerland, and currently I work and live in Luzern. The rent in Switzerland is expensive, and I am wondering if the rental prices in Germany are cheaper, and if it is doable to commute to Luzern from Switzerland. Does anyone have an opinion on that?
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Old 25.01.2020, 07:08
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

Yes, forget it. The commute by car from the north of Zurich is already an hour, if you are lucky. Add another hour and calculate in more traffic jams from Germany to Zurich area.

Have done the trip SH to Zurich as well for some time and that was also a lot longer due to traffic.
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I am new in Switzerland, and currently I work and live in Luzern. The rent in Switzerland is expensive, and I am wondering if the rental prices in Germany are cheaper, and if it is doable to commute to Luzern from Switzerland. Does anyone have an opinion on that?
Rents are lower in German yes, so you will save on that, plus of course on lots of other things, including shopping, insurance and healthcare.

Taxes may be higher if you work full time. You'd have to check the rates. Or if there is someone on the forum who is a cross border worker?

Have you already tried the journey? If you work fairly typical office hours then the trains are going to be pretty full for most of the journey, even in first class on some routes.

Jestetten to Luzern for example is 1 hour 45 mins, plus you need to factor in the time to and from the stations. You are looking at 4 hours travelling per day.

Singen to Luzern is around 2 hours. So say 4.5 hours travel a day.

All of it is doable. The central CH cantons have cross border workers too, though on a lesser extent to the border cantons - probably due to the longer journeying times required.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

Apart from what others consider doable (for me a commute of over 4 hours a day is not), OP should first check if he actually can live in Germany and commute. A G permit is restricted and non EU cannot easily get one.

Add the time from home to the train station and from train station to work.... so 5 hours a day?
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Apart from what others consider doable (for me a commute of over 4 hours a day is not)
It's a matter of opinion. I would personally not do it. Definitely not full time. If you have home office days or work only part time, can stick the journey and earn well, then why not?
Certainly research more on the money front and do the trial run journey there and back to see how it is.
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Hi all,

I am new in Switzerland, and currently I work and live in Luzern. The rent in Switzerland is expensive, and I am wondering if the rental prices in Germany are cheaper, and if it is doable to commute to Luzern from Switzerland. Does anyone have an opinion on that?



There are quite a few little villages not far from Luzern but easily reachable with a single, frequent bus or local train in ten-fifteen minutes with much cheaper rent than Luzern itself. They have night-buses too.
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Hi all,

I am new in Switzerland, and currently I work and live in Luzern. The rent in Switzerland is expensive, and I am wondering if the rental prices in Germany are cheaper, and if it is doable to commute to Luzern from Switzerland. Does anyone have an opinion on that?



What ever you save in rent, you'll pay double in transport costs, not taking into account 4 hours a day x 5 days a week of you time, all going well


(Just in case you're under any illusions, that is a full day each week or nearly 2 months per year)
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

Forget the travel logistics.... it's not allowed. You have to live in the border region of Germany for 6 months before they will give you a G permit.... assuming you are an EU citizen.
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Forget the travel logistics.... it's not allowed. You have to live in the border region of Germany for 6 months before they will give you a G permit.... assuming you are an EU citizen.
If you are EU that is no longer the case and hasn't been for a long time now. 1 day of residence is required. If you are non-EU then other rules apply.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

is your life worth anything?

If not, it might still not be worth it because of additional massive expense on public transportation and possibly taxes.

In Switzerland you can find rents that are 2/3 of those in the city if you go a bit further out of the city, like 15 minutes, in a village along a train or bus line.

Tbh I'd rather live in a WG rather than commute 5 hours a day, it's just nuts.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

Go south and find a cheap place in the alps.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

I would not recommend doing commuting more then 2 hours one way.
I did in Germany (around 2 hours one way) and here in Switzerland(around 1,5 hours one way), the effects are tiredness, loneliness.
Sometimes , when you work and commute long hours, it is a problem to do the small jobs, like cleaning the flat or doing the shopping for groceries.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

I think the closest part of Germany connected by a good highway is near Basel, Rheinfelden and towns nearby. A 200 km per day per round-trip drive.

Assuming a job from Mo-Fr, you'll put 50k km per year on the car and on your health. A car would depreciate to zero in 3-4 years, not sure if it's the same car insurance rate for such high distance per year, the probability of being in an accident goes through the roof because of being tired, and not sure how to quantify the health problems of driving 3 hours per day on top of working.

If the rent is a problem, check on cantons Aargau, Nidwald, or Obwald. 10 km from Luzern, connected by train and lower rent prices

Also relevant, cross-border workers/frontalières are regarded as underclass. Finally, check what happen with unemployment benefits under this arrangement. Some cross-border workers are covered, others not.
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Also relevant, cross-border workers/frontalières are regarded as underclass.
Who regards them as such?!
There are Swiss citizens who live in neighbouring countries' border regions. Are they also included in that underclass?!
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Who regards them as such?!
There are Swiss citizens who live in neighbouring countries' border regions. Are they also included in that underclass?!
Ignorance and prejudge are not rational, anyway they exist.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

Thank you for your suggestion. But I have one more question. Are the cantons open to "South European" expats, or these cantons are a little racist?

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cantons Aargau, Nidwald, or Obwald.
P.S.: I don't want to offend anyone.
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Thank you for your suggestion. But I have one more question. Are the cantons open to "South European" expats, or these cantons are a little racist?


P.S.: I don't want to offend anyone.
Unpleasant bit of race baiting there.

Foreigners of any skin tone or nationality will find it challenging to integrate into some areas.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

And what are the best cities that integrate expats? Is Luzern one of this cities?
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And what are the best cities that integrate expats? Is Luzern one of this cities?
One of my Swiss colleagues, when I worked in Vaud, was a Luzerner. He had a non-Swiss wife. They moved to Vaud because of the difficulty she had integrating.

OTOH, I know expats who live there and love it.
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Re: Commuting from Germany to Luzern

If you make an effort to integrate it is possible anywhere, may just take a little time. As for a commute of 2 hours one way...no thank you. Quite happy with my 7 kms.
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