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Only one person named on the rental agreement

Hello,

My girlfriend (Irish) and I (British) are looking to move to Lugano in a few months time. We are currently in the process of registering a business in Switzerland, along with our Swiss business partner - and intend to issue ourselves employment contracts and apply for residency permits.

We have found an apartment on AirBnB - and the landlord has agreed to a 10 month lease. However, he has stated that he can only register one of us at the address.

He stated that he cannot register both of us to the address, as he would need to find a new address for himself. Despite living abroad, he is currently using the address as his primary residence.

For clarity, we would be renting the entire apartment, and he wouldn't be living in it.

Therefore his solution is to register one of us to property, an addition to himself.

The property is a 2.5 room (1 bedroom) apartment.

As we are looking to move to Switzerland and become tax residents, my concern is that one of us wouldn't be on the rental agreement.

Is there a solution for this situation? Or can we both register at the commune despite not both being on the rental agreement?

Any advice would be much appreciated

Many thanks,

Jon
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Old 26.02.2020, 20:08
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Re: Only one person named on the rental agreement

My wife was never on my rental agreement.

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My wife was never on my rental agreement.

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If you are married it is automatically on both names

As for OP, if the landlord tells you upfront only one of you is allowed to register just avoid all the trouble and drop it and find something else.
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Nope.

I had the place in my name only, girlfriend moved in, we got married, nothing ever changed.

Her name only went on it when we bought it years later.

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Nope.

I had the place in my name only, girlfriend moved in, we got married, nothing ever changed.

Her name only went on it when we bought it years later.

Tom
Her name will not physically appear on the contract, however she effectively has equal rights and also needs to be cancelled even tho her name is not on the contract.

But you already know all of this it is just that you love to be mr. wiseguy.
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Old 26.02.2020, 22:22
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Her name will not physically appear on the contract, however she effectively has equal rights and also needs to be cancelled even tho her name is not on the contract.

But you already know all of this it is just that you love to be mr. wiseguy.
I cancelled with just my signature.

She also bought a house that is only in her name.

This is normal and legal.

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Old 26.02.2020, 20:37
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Hello,

My girlfriend (Irish) and I (British) are looking to move to Lugano in a few months time. We are currently in the process of registering a business in Switzerland, along with our Swiss business partner - and intend to issue ourselves employment contracts and apply for residency permits.

We have found an apartment on AirBnB - and the landlord has agreed to a 10 month lease. However, he has stated that he can only register one of us at the address.

He stated that he cannot register both of us to the address, as he would need to find a new address for himself. Despite living abroad, he is currently using the address as his primary residence.

For clarity, we would be renting the entire apartment, and he wouldn't be living in it.

Therefore his solution is to register one of us to property, an addition to himself.

The property is a 2.5 room (1 bedroom) apartment.

As we are looking to move to Switzerland and become tax residents, my concern is that one of us wouldn't be on the rental agreement.

Is there a solution for this situation? Or can we both register at the commune despite not both being on the rental agreement?

Any advice would be much appreciated

Many thanks,

Jon

But it is not just about being on the lease agreement.... it's about continuing the pretense that the owner is living there too with you....


If it were me I'd walk away because you could get pulled more into this little charade later. You are new to the country and starting a business, don't take on his baggage.
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Re: Only one person named on the rental agreement

To register and get a permit, your girlfriend needs an address. Possibly when she gives that one the community will claim, the flat is not big enough.

I agree, I would walk away too. I do understand reasons for having an address in Switzerland (by the owner) but he'll have to find a single person. Too much possible hassle for you in this solution.
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Re: Only one person named on the rental agreement

This sounds like a scam, to be honest. Next thing he'll ask you to bank transfer a deposit to his personal account and he'll send someone to meet you with the key. Except that person doesn't exist and you won't get a flat.
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This sounds like a scam, to be honest. Next thing he'll ask you to bank transfer a deposit to his personal account and he'll send someone to meet you with the key. Except that person doesn't exist and you won't get a flat.
It’s not necessarily a scam. I know people who have done this. But your advice To be careful of scams is important.

If he is still registered at the address he is correct that the commune will come back and say there are too many people in the apartment and ask one to leave.

@Jon, you need to find a different option.
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Re: Only one person named on the rental agreement

Not a problem. You can have the rental contract in your name and register the two of you at the Commune. One of the apartments we own is rented to a student who lives there with his girlfriend, and they are both registered at the Commune. In fact she has to be, as she needs the address for her permit. It will of course be you that's responsible for the rent and not her.

However, it is strange that he does not want to put the two of you on the contract. Nothing to stop him using it as his official address while renting to you. I don't have any vacancy at the moment, till end April, but we do short lets, 3 months then monthly notice, so no reason he cannot do the same.
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This sounds like a scam, to be honest. Next thing he'll ask you to bank transfer a deposit to his personal account and he'll send someone to meet you with the key. Except that person doesn't exist and you won't get a flat.
Oh I donít think it is that kind of a scam... but it seems the owner is running some kind of a scam.... probably on the tax authorities.
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Oh I donít think it is that kind of a scam... but it seems the owner is running some kind of a scam.... probably on the tax authorities.
i don't think he's scamming the taxman. If the OP is registered at the town hall as renting the property, the taxman will know about it, and the owner will declare the income in his tax return. Could be any number of reasons, health insurance, car ownership, bank account etc.
 

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