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So, I went through the list of things I would pay for (breakages, damage) and things that I would not (anything according to the MV website on aged equipment) and the value was about half of that being asked for originally.

His reply has me bamboozled.

"Dear ******, do what you want!!!!
If you don't want to pay that, let it be"

and that's it.

My plan is to wait a few days, remind him of his obligations to return the deposit and I will pay him.

So strange....
Have you called hi to speak with him?
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Have you called hi to speak with him?
On the assumption that this is a serious question, no, I haven't. His English isn't great and my German's not up to it.
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Old 03.04.2020, 09:44
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On the assumption that this is a serious question, no, I haven't. His English isn't great and my German's not up to it.
Why would it not be a serious question? You guys are spending so much time exchanging mails and having misunderstandings when a some of this situation could potentially be resolved, or at least some goodwill generated, with a simple phone call... even if his English is "not to good". When you are in possession of more facts about your rights I would at least try this to say I had explored the option and make sure you are very calm and polite even if things get heated.
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Why would it not be a serious question? You guys are spending so much time exchanging mails and having misunderstandings when a some of this situation could potentially be resolved, or at least some goodwill generated, with a simple phone call... even if his English is "not to good". When you are in possession of more facts about your rights I would at least try this to say I had explored the option and make sure you are very calm and polite even if things get heated.
You think a jaunty "Hi" is what's needed here... I don't. [perhaps it was a typo]

How do you know we're exchanging so many emails on the topic? We've written two each culminating in the last response. I don't think that's too much.

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Old 03.04.2020, 11:25
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You think a jaunty "Hi" is what's needed here... I don't. [perhaps it was a typo]

How do you know we're exchanging so many emails on the topic? We've written two each culminating in the last response. I don't think that's too much.
Yes, of course... verbal communication during a serious matter is invariably a "jaunty hi".

Anyway, it was just a suggestion based on my many years of using verbal communication to help to resolve difficult situations in both my personal and professional life. Do what you want.

EDIT - Regarding your PM asking me not to comment in your threads and "foul them" (lol)... sorry but tough it's a public forum. Next time don't be so sarcastic to well-intentioned advice.

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Old 03.04.2020, 13:22
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On the assumption that this is a serious question, no, I haven't. His English isn't great and my German's not up to it.
Well this may also explain why you are in this situation in the first place.

A phonecall is only useful when there isn't a language barrier.

It's funny how some property owners and their agents can communicate in English when it suits them.

In this situation you will need to write in German as English cannot be used as an official language of communication.
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Well this may also explain why you are in this situation in the first place.

A phonecall is only useful when there isn't a language barrier.

It's funny how some property owners and their agents can communicate in English when it suits them.

In this situation you will need to write in German as English cannot be used as an official language of communication.
Right, I agree that this doesn't help the situation. Still, here we are.

I've written in a way that is clear what my proposal is, and this he understands, if not liking it. (Spreadsheet with payments 'due' and what I would pay and wouldn't with a summary of the new balance at the bottom).

He likes a spreadsheet.

Just leaving it a few days. Thanks for the note about written language. I still hope it doesn't come to that.
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Old 03.04.2020, 14:19
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That the deposit was never placed in a rental surety account, despite the OP's point about his wife having worked for a large rental admin company in Bern for many years, is rather shocking.
Tbh it doesn't speak well for the wife. At all.
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Tbh it doesn't speak well for the wife. At all.
I don't follow - is this from another thread?

My wife doesn't work for a rental company in Bern.
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Old 03.04.2020, 15:22
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Well this may also explain why you are in this situation in the first place.

A phonecall is only useful when there isn't a language barrier.
I would bet that the landlord speaks better English than he writes... most Swiss do in my experience.
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Yes, of course... verbal communication during a serious matter is invariably a "jaunty hi".

Anyway, it was just a suggestion based on my many years of using verbal communication to help to resolve difficult situations in both my personal and professional life. Do what you want.

EDIT - Regarding your PM asking me not to comment in your threads and "foul them" (lol)... sorry but tough it's a public forum. Next time don't be so sarcastic to well-intentioned advice.
This is what I wrote.

"So, it should be apparent that I don't welcome your comments on my posts.

I don't enjoy it, or find it helpful to hear from you. Yes it's a public forum, but do me a favour and don't foul up my posts please.

I'll put you back on ignore now."

You're not well intentioned, and having discussed with you before on a different thread, where you pettily removed a green blob from me, I'm not going through this nonsense again. I politely asked you to leave me alone, and you won't.

I won't be posting again on the EF.
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Old 03.04.2020, 16:30
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This is what I wrote.

"So, it should be apparent that I don't welcome your comments on my posts.

I don't enjoy it, or find it helpful to hear from you. Yes it's a public forum, but do me a favour and don't foul up my posts please.

I'll put you back on ignore now."

You're not well intentioned, and having discussed with you before on a different thread, where you pettily removed a green blob from me, I'm not going through this nonsense again. I politely asked you to leave me alone, and you won't.

I won't be posting again on the EF.
I can see you are a mature and well-balanced individual who can deal with conflicting opinions without being hyper-sensitive. Ahem.

There was also nothing 'petty' about the rep, your response to my well-meaning comment about phoning the landlord (which I have done with my own agencies in similar situations over the years with success) was unnecessarily sarcastic and dismissive. You earned them, so enjoy!
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I can see you are a mature and well-balanced individual who can deal with conflicting opinions without being hyper-sensitive. Ahem.

There was also nothing 'petty' about the rep, your response to my well-meaning comment about phoning was unnecessarily sarcastic and dismissive. You earned them, so enjoy!
I think it was probably a typo and you meant to say him rather than hi.
The sarcastic comment was probably in response to that although it was fairly obvious what you meant to say.
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I can see you are a mature and well-balanced individual who can deal with conflicting opinions without being hyper-sensitive. Ahem.

There was also nothing 'petty' about the rep, your response to my well-meaning comment about phoning the landlord (which I have done with my own agencies in similar situations over the years with success) was unnecessarily sarcastic and dismissive. You earned them, so enjoy!
I don't like your comments stemming from another thread where I felt you were bang out of order, politely ask you to refrain from contacting me.

And you don't, you love it actually, here you are again.

I expect nonsense from you - only realising after that it was probably a typo, and not your usual attitude, my mistake. But understand, someone else gets the benefit of the doubt.

'Well intentioned'.

This is why I wont start any more threads. You'll be there again, with your crap. I don't expect to be barracked thus, and I don't enjoy it. Reasoning with you invites ridicule.
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I don't like your comments stemming from another thread where I felt you were bang out of order, politely ask you to refrain from contacting me.

And you don't, you love it actually, here you are again.

I expect nonsense from you - only realising after that it was probably a typo, and not your usual attitude, my mistake. But understand, someone else gets the benefit of the doubt.

'Well intentioned'.

This is why I wont start any more threads. You'll be there again, with your crap. I don't expect to be barracked thus, and I don't enjoy it. Reasoning with you invites ridicule.
I can only assume from your massive and melodramatic overreaction that the pressure of the situation is getting to you. Good luck with your landlord and stay healthy.
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I can only assume from your massive and melodramatic overreaction that the pressure of the situation is getting to you. Good luck with your landlord and stay healthy.
Massive and melodramatic.

Sure.

"Good luck with your landlord and stay healthy"

with the 'nice guy' comment at the end. Urgh....
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Oh right... Its Friday... Is it? Im confused...
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Oh right... Its Friday... Is it? Im confused...
I've been having trouble knowing which day of the week it is as well. Good to know that in these troubling times we can rely on EF for a bit of consistency.
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Old 03.04.2020, 23:11
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I don't follow - is this from another thread?

My wife doesn't work for a rental company in Bern.
This was my mistake and I edited my post.
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