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Old 12.05.2020, 15:03
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Re: Irritating neighbour

It ended up with one bike parked across the street and one in the courtyard which was moved on Saturday. Last Friday morning someone from the property company turned up and put a notice on the inside of the front door saying there is a regulation that nothing is to be left in the courtyard and the insurance does not cover the storing/parking of motorbikes anywhere at this address. It went on to say if the bike wasn't moved by the owner asap then the police would be contacted. Another resident photocopied the notice and stuck the copies on the door to the velo room and the inside of the courtyard door so it was visible from all sides.

Other residents and the cleaning company who come every week had complained about it as well, thankful it's been dealt with now.
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Old 12.05.2020, 15:30
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Re: Irritating neighbour

Dealt with for now.

The Feuerpolizei would probably put a more lasting stop to his behaviour if he starts again because they will escalate it to the building management with the threat of a penalty if things do not improve.
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It ended up with one bike parked across the street and one in the courtyard which was moved on Saturday. Last Friday morning someone from the property company turned up and put a notice on the inside of the front door saying there is a regulation that nothing is to be left in the courtyard and the insurance does not cover the storing/parking of motorbikes anywhere at this address. It went on to say if the bike wasn't moved by the owner asap then the police would be contacted. Another resident photocopied the notice and stuck the copies on the door to the velo room and the inside of the courtyard door so it was visible from all sides.

Other residents and the cleaning company who come every week had complained about it as well, thankful it's been dealt with now.
Something that Iíve learned since living in CH after the UK, is that things work here. There are laws for everything! In the UK I would feel under peer pressure/embarrassed to report something that was clearly not right. And I spent my first few years living here under that same premise.

But came to learn that here, just call or drop an email in a nice tone to the relevant landlord/police, and itís dealt with immediately...
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Old 12.05.2020, 15:38
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my neighbors must just love it when I take the motorbike apart
I was parts in the sink and bath.

Had a Ducati motor on my desk at work for nearly nine months!

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Old 12.05.2020, 16:00
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Re: Irritating neighbour

"In the UK I would feel under peer pressure/embarrassed to report something that was clearly not right".

I hate reporting stuff. When I lived in London I had a family move in next door to me with a dog that barked constantly from morning till night, then they'd chuck it out in the back garden and it would bark and whine out there for the rest of the evening. It was a Springer Spaniel that never got taken for walks and obviously had abandonment issues when they went off to work as the barking and howling would start 10 mins later. I contacted the RSPCA out of concern and they said to me "dogs bark to communicate", not very helpful when you are being driven up the wall. I contacted the local Environmental Health re the noise, they came and agreed the racket was a nuisance as they could hear it from across the street and they sent a warning letter.

However, they also warned me that if it didn't improve and I wanted the council to take it further, I'd have to declare it to buyers if I wanted to sell the house. I knew I was going to sell within another 18 months so just had to put up with it. By the time I moved out I was a nervous wreck.
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Old 12.05.2020, 16:04
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Something that Iíve learned since living in CH after the UK, is that things work here. There are laws for everything! In the UK I would feel under peer pressure/embarrassed to report something that was clearly not right. And I spent my first few years living here under that same premise.
Maybe it's just because you were younger so weren't so set in your ways and less annoyed you so you felt there was less to complain about?

Just a thought?
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Old 12.05.2020, 16:12
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the insurance does not cover the storing/parking of motorbikes anywhere at this address.

If one day the motorcycle causes any damage to people or property, the insurance will cover nothing and the manager of the building is liable for all damages. The building manager wants to avoid that liability, problem solved
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Old 13.05.2020, 01:12
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the manager of the building is liable for all damages.
Says who?

Looks like they're doing their duty and getting it removed, and it's not theirs to begin with. So not really any of their obligation.
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Old 13.05.2020, 03:40
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Re: Irritating neighbour

Personally I'd be thrilled about having another biker in my building, and it would be an excuse to chat with the chap at length about engines, ride routes, performance specs etc.

I really doubt that he was about to dismantle his bikes in the common areas - no one wants to risk losing spare parts with strangers about.

However, I do appreciate that the bikes are taking up play or walk space AND that not everyone is a "motorhead".

I do hope someone actually tried to chat with the chap, rather than just leaving notes - the latter cannot be a nice way to be welcomed to your new home and could actually cause some other frictions....

Depending on where he is from, he may simply not have realised that he was p'ing off his neighbours. When I was in Italy and in Vietnam, it was perfectly normal to park your motorbike wherever you could find any kind of space near your home, even if it meant under stairways, in foyers, in gardens, whatever! The locals in each instance always laughed at me for trying to confirm formally allocated parking spaces!
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Old 13.05.2020, 06:59
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When I was in Italy and in Vietnam, it was perfectly normal to park your motorbike wherever you could find any kind of space near your home, even if it meant under stairways, in foyers, in gardens, whatever! The locals in each instance always laughed at me for trying to confirm formally allocated parking spaces!
I love both Italy and Vietnam, but I'm very happy that we don't have the same sort of attitude to vehicular regulations like they do there. I think those two countries top the list of the most accidents I've seen within a two week period on each of their respective continents.
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Old 13.05.2020, 18:28
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Re: Irritating neighbour

"However, I do appreciate that the bikes are taking up play or walk space AND that not everyone is a "motorhead".

The courtyard to our building isn't a yard, it was designed to look like a walled garden and has an eco feature in the middle with coloured stones, pebbles and decorative grasses to catch and drain rain water. Round the edge are raised beds with small flowering shrubs, climbing plants and we have a couple of small trees. As it's very pretty we use it for aperos with neighbours in the summer, hence not wanting things to be dumped out there.

The bike owner himself didn't exactly get off on the right foot by putting up a big notice saying he was parking his bikes out there because he had no other place to keep them, that was what really annoyed people I'm afraid. We're a community in this building but not to the extent of being an unwelcoming clique.
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Old 13.05.2020, 19:49
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It ended up with one bike parked across the street and one in the courtyard which was moved on Saturday. Last Friday morning someone from the property company turned up and put a notice on the inside of the front door saying there is a regulation that nothing is to be left in the courtyard and the insurance does not cover the storing/parking of motorbikes anywhere at this address. It went on to say if the bike wasn't moved by the owner asap then the police would be contacted. Another resident photocopied the notice and stuck the copies on the door to the velo room and the inside of the courtyard door so it was visible from all sides.

Other residents and the cleaning company who come every week had complained about it as well, thankful it's been dealt with now.
While happy it's dealt with, this seems very passive agressive... (the photocopies).

Did anyone actually try talking to the chap? I'm biased as I own two and a half bikes, but I still think the whole thing got blown a bit out of proportion...
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Being Swiss, my sense is that he should have read the building regulations when he moved in and adhered to them.
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Says who?

Looks like they're doing their duty and getting it removed, and it's not theirs to begin with. So not really any of their obligation.
I agree. If anything, wouldn't any damage be the liability of the bike owner who was parking there against the rules?
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I agree. If anything, wouldn't any damage be the liability of the bike owner who was parking there against the rules?
I would think so, except if the owner had been informed otherwise. But even if that had happened, the regie's letter he must have received by now should have removed any issues of that kind.
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Old 14.05.2020, 09:33
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Personally I'd be thrilled about having another biker in my building, and it would be an excuse to chat with the chap at length about engines, ride routes, performance specs etc.
So, what do you ride?

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So, what do you ride?

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Have little collection over a couple of garages, PM me if you want to know more but my favourite is the Triumph 955 ST, especially as I'm getting too old for some of the beasties. You?


OP, appreciate having a bike in a pretty courtyard wasn't ideal in your situation. I'd have motorbikes in my living room if I could lift them up to that level, so clearly I'm very biased on freedom for parking!
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