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Old 17.04.2020, 17:24
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Irritating neighbour

We've had a young guy move into our building a few weeks ago, just after he moved in he decided to park a red motorbike in our lovely communal courtyard area that we sometimes use in the summer for aperos with the other residents. He put an apologetic notice up saying it was in the courtyard because he didn't have anywhere to park on the street (it was previously parked up on the pavement by the entrance door for a few days). A disgruntled anonymous resident put up another notice informing him that leaving a motorbike in the courtyard wasn't on, he needed to get it moved or the police would be called. A number of residents emailed the property company to complain. Next day he moved it, to do so he had to wheel it across the hallway.

Anyway, we thought he'd got the message, then 10 days ago he left it in the entrance hall for 2 days as he was charging the battery up (and there's a motorbike shop round the corner where you can do this outside). He went off on it last Friday, then a different motorbike turned up in the hallway on Tuesday evening, the cleaning ladies had to vacuum and mop round it on Wednesday (they also sweep the courtyard and we have gardeners here every few weeks).


Came back from the local supermarket on Wednesday night, lo and behold after I'd put the shopping away a PAIR of motorbikes had been parked in the courtyard, the white one from the hall plus the red one and the owner was getting in the lift. We photographed them and checked our lease which states there is to be no parking anywhere at this address, if you have a pedal cycle you must use the velo room on the ground floor. I emailed the agent asking if the guy had permission for the bikes and she said no, it was being investigated and it would be dealt with. We pointed out there is a safety issue here - if there was a fire in the building there are 2 petrol tanks that could potentially explode and the front doors are also the fire exit (although I have windows on the other side of the building at street level). Have to admit, it is irritating the hell out of me as they are parked opposite my kitchen/dining area and I constantly see them as our main room is open plan.


What also concerns us is he might start using the courtyard to dismantle or repair the bikes, oil leaking on to the block paving or onto the concrete floor in the hall. This was a new build when we moved in back in July 2018, we all moved in together and have formed a little community, but there appears to be this one flat in the building that someone sublets out furnished and this is where he has moved into (he's about the 4th tenant since we moved here).

We're trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt as he only looks about 24 and might not be thinking. We've all done stupid things without thinking in our youth.

The agent seems to be paying us lip service whilst not really taking it seriously, she took over from a partner is the company who was on the ball but he died really suddenly I really don't want to have problems with neighbours, been there, done it and got the t-shirt when I lived in London. This is a really lovely building in a nice part of Basel with a kind group of tenants of different nationalities, at the moment I can hear my Italian neighbour upstairs playing his Spanish guitar and singing
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Who is Tom Jr?
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It's a joke about Tom (st2lemans) on this forum, who is a big fan of motorcycles. I think he might even own enough to start his own dealership.

If the bikes are being parked in a place that is a safety hazard, perhaps a call to the police is in order.
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Re: Irritating neighbour

It's the mere fact that the lease says no parking anywhere. We are the only apartment in the building with no balcony as above the courtyard we are on a kind of mezzanine level and on the other side just above street level. When we moved in the agent told us we could use the courtyard for sitting outside but on no account was there to be furniture left out there. We don't generally bother with sitting out there, but the others say they'd have no objection (a couple of our neighbours are using it for outdoor exercise in the mornings until the gyms open again).

My point is, we don't want newcomers moving in thinking they can do what they like. At our last place in Kleinbasel, husband used to keep his Brompton in the basement bike store outside the laundry room and people used to chuck rubbish into the basket, he was forever finding bags of half consumed things from McDonalds in there.
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Old 17.04.2020, 18:30
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Re: Irritating neighbour

If it is private place belonging to the building the police can't do anything. Normally you have concierge or juge de paix (don't know German terms) who can fine on the spot.
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Can you get hold of a large decorative potted plant / occasional table and put it/them where he parks his bike?
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Old 17.04.2020, 18:57
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Re: Irritating neighbour

The kindest thing a good neighbor can do is help the guy to keep his property safe. A lock on the front disk brake or chaining the bike to anything in the building will prevent pesky thieves from stealing it. Solidarity among neighbors above all
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Re: Irritating neighbour

dog sh!t on his handlebars and move to a single family home. Something tells me that you are destined to have neighbor problems for life if you don't break the cycle now.
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Re: Irritating neighbour

my neighbors must just love it when I take the motorbike apart
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dog sh!t on his handlebars and move to a single family home. Something tells me that you are destined to have neighbor problems for life if you don't break the cycle now.
confrontation is part of life. it can occur in the family, on the job, on the street, wherever. sucking it up and hiding is not the solution. the confrontation can be aggressive, kill'em with kindness style, passive-aggressive....options are endless
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Can you get hold of a large decorative potted plant / occasional table and put it/them where he parks his bike?

The grumpie old lady comes out in me, I feel the pain for the O.P. one bike then another, WT...


Do you know who owns the flat he rents, I would bombard them with messages, if not bombard his bike with messages.


Does he know there is a there's a motorbike shop round the corner where he can charge his battery outside - leave a note on his bike.


Him parking in a hallway to charge it seems like a fire risk, send the agent a note maybe the agent, sounds like a fire risk they have to be responsibly for and if they do not respond within certain time frame, let them know you will inform Fire Department in case something happens and you are not around to tell why Agents did not take action.



Can you leave a note to suggest somewhere he can park his bike. He left a note in the first place, sounds like he does not know the area.



Does he know the problem he caused the cleaners - leave a note on his bike.


Meantime bombard the agent.


Good luck, hope he finds somewhere to park his bike. If not, in time hope he moves to somewhere with bike storing.


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... if you don't break the cycle now.
Very funny!
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Under the lease terms we are not allowed to put anything in the courtyard or hallway.

We suspect his problem may be he doesn't have a residents parking permit for the street here. Plenty of people park motorbikes and scooters next to each other across the street from the front of the building as there is a parking place there that's sheltered by a motorway flyover.
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Start feeding birds in your courtyard: ideally seagulls.
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Under the lease terms we are not allowed to put anything in the courtyard or hallway.

We suspect his problem may be he doesn't have a residents parking permit for the street here. Plenty of people park motorbikes and scooters next to each other across the street from the front of the building as there is a parking place there that's sheltered by a motorway flyover.

Either talk to him at Social Distance or leave a note on his bike how to get a residents parking permit, maybe he does not know, if he responds kindly, I would be patient until he gets it, no idea how long it takes, and suspect as a young person or new person to area, maybe does not know how to get one.
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Haven't you talked to him?

Why not? Alternatively, what did he say and how did he react?
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We suspect his problem may be he doesn't have a residents parking permit for the street here.
How big is the 'We', if it is all the tenants complaining, then you'd expect the landlord to do something...
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Re: Irritating neighbour

The colour of the bike was red. Is that significant?
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The colour of the bike was red. Is that significant?
It goes faster, obviously.
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