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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

Threaten to call the cops on him (since it's illegal to smoke it here or have large amounts of it in your possession). Or just do call the cops. Sometimes the cops can be really helpful in "annoying neighbor" situations. I had to call them once when some teenagers were partying in a storage/hobby room, right below my little boy's bedroom, which made him unable to fall asleep. The cops were here within five minutes and were so nice and helpful.
I know it sucks to call the cops on someone, but since your neighbor had told you "F U" it sounds like he might deserve it.
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We moved into a small town in the canton of Zurich. The town is amazing, close to work, lots of families with kids.

The problem we have is a neighbour who smokes enough marijuana to make pollute our terrace. Now we can't even enjoy our terrace or leave windows open because the marijuana smoke sips in, making the apartment unbearable.

I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal. This took me back, since I was asking him to be considerate, since we can't leave our apartment during the covid lockdown. We now feel like prisoners.

I realized that instead or escalating the issue with the neighbour, I should instead make it by building managements' problem.

I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
By telling you to go F yourself, he has basically declared war. and you can now take the gloves off.

Next time you smell it in your apartment and suspect its illegal cannabis, call the police and have them pay a visit. Write a letter to your landlord saying how the smell if affecting your quality of life and potentially your family's health, Do the same (call police) every week or so when you smell it and write a letter to your landlord every couple of weeks. Tell your (probably very angry by now having had several police visits and a couple of letters from the agency) neighbour that you will do so every time you smell it.

Over time this should grind them down enough to start closing the windows or smoking it elsewhere outside. If they get abusive with you... well, call the police again, it's what they are there for. With repetitive and consistent action they will understand and maybe see that polluting your balcony is more trouble than its worth. Just stick with it and be firm yet polite.
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Threaten to call the cops on him (since it's illegal to smoke it here or have large amounts of it in your possession). Or just do call the cops. Sometimes the cops can be really helpful in "annoying neighbor" situations. I had to call them once when some teenagers were partying in a storage/hobby room, right below my little boy's bedroom, which made him unable to fall asleep. The cops were here within five minutes and were so nice and helpful.
I know it sucks to call the cops on someone, but since your neighbor had told you "F U" it sounds like he might deserve it.
Oh no, another terrible piece of advice from someone that will not be affected by this action. Yes, it definitely sucks to call the cops on your neighbour! Weed smoking is no big deal and the simple fact that there is no need to escalate a situation with a neighbour.

I don't know though where he gets the idea that it is not illegal? Best to be diplomatic and tell him you really can't stand it though you would never call the cops, that he could try to understand you and maybe vape it or do it when you are out. If people are approached with diplomacy, 9 times out of 10 a solution can be found.
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Now if they were smoking cannabis on a Sunday....
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Old 26.04.2020, 10:20
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By telling you to go F yourself, he has basically declared war. and you can now take the gloves off.

Next time you smell it in your apartment and suspect its illegal cannabis, call the police and have them pay a visit. Write a letter to your landlord saying how the smell if affecting your quality of life and potentially your family's health, Do the same (call police) every week or so when you smell it and write a letter to your landlord every couple of weeks. Tell your (probably very angry by now having had several police visits and a couple of letters from the agency) neighbour that you will do so every time you smell it.

Over time this should grind them down enough to start closing the windows or smoking it elsewhere outside. If they get abusive with you... well, call the police again, it's what they are there for. With repetitive and consistent action they will understand and maybe see that polluting your balcony is more trouble than its worth. Just stick with it and be firm yet polite.
Yes, that's what the Police are there for, to be harassed over a weed smoker, to be occupied for one person in one household who isn't really committing a crime like burglary or Paedophilia, fraud or shoplifting, vandalism or assault, etc, etc. The Police are NOT there for this in general, if he was abusive or raving all day and night then ok, that IS what the Police are there for but for God's sake... a little diplomacy goes a long way, as I said.

Why do you always think you need to give advice?

You must be the worst neighbour anyone could have...
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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

I just found the following info after doing a search about it:

"Pursuant to Art. 257f (2) of the Swiss Code of Obligations, tenants are obligated to take other occupants in the building as well as neighbors into account. So, if you smoke at home—whether inside or outside on the balcony—the smoke, smell and ingredients emitted from your smoking should not overly bother your neighbors. Also, tenants must be careful that smoke does not find its way through an open door into the stairwell."

Tenants are legally prohibited from conducting illegal activity in their apartment
Smoking cannabis, however, is a whole different ball game. Smoking marijuana is still punishable by law in Switzerland—except for smoking CBD grass. And according to the Tenant Association, it is illegal for any tenant to conduct illegal activity in his or her apartment. A tenant can be kicked out of their apartment if he or she continues to smoke or consume cannabis at home despite being warned not to.

So, the bottom line is that anyone who enjoys smoking a pipe, lighting up a cigar or puffing away on a cigarette at home is welcome to do so—as long as they are considerate of their neighbors."

Source: https://blog.homegate.ch/en/smoking-...or-prohibited/
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Yes, that's what the Police are there for, to be harassed over a weed smoker, to be occupied for one person in one household who isn't really committing a crime like burglary or Paedophilia, fraud or shoplifting, vandalism or assault, etc, etc. The Police are NOT there for this in general, if he was abusive or raving all day and night then ok, that IS what the Police are there for but for God's sake... a little diplomacy goes a long way, as I said.

Why do you always think you need to give advice?

You must be the worst neighbour anyone could have...
If you, an erratic, irrational and aggressive plonker with a short fuse, disagree with one of my posts... then I automatically know that my post is on the right track.

Illegal cannabis is still illegal. A person who cannot enjoy the comfort of their own home as a result of any illegal drug use, and has been told to F-off when trying to resolve it personally, has rights that are being infringed against. it's at the lower end of the police's priorities, but it's still in their jurisdiction as with other anti-social behaviour such as being called to a neighbour playing their music too loud and refusing to turn it down.

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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

In the canton of zurich it is legal , to have up to 10 Gramms of cannabis in your possession, so at your home you can smoke it(without harm your neighbours).

Smoking in Public will punished with a 100 sfr fee.

Have you contacted the police ?
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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

The legality of cannabis is not really the issue here.
It is about living in a small town in Kanton Zürich. If the cannabis smell is really strong then many people will have noticed it. Ask around. Find out what the local attitude is. Maybe you have support amongst other neighbours, maybe not.
Then you can decide whether to go with the flow or against it.
Buy a fan -very useful in summer anyway.
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If you, an erratic, irrational and aggressive plonker with a short fuse, disagree with one of my posts... then I automatically know that my post is on the right track.

Illegal cannabis is still illegal. A person who cannot enjoy the comfort of their own home as a result of any illegal drug use, and has been told to F-off when trying to resolve it personally, has rights that are being infringed against. it's at the lower end of the police's priorities, but it's still in their jurisdiction as with other anti-social behaviour such as being called to a neighbour playing their music too loud and refusing to turn it down.
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Here is actually what the OP said. Not f. Off etc

Another lecturing load of nonsense based on non-factual quotes again...
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Old 26.04.2020, 12:36
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The legality of cannabis is not really the issue here.
It is about living in a small town in Kanton Zürich. If the cannabis smell is really strong then many people will have noticed it. Ask around. Find out what the local attitude is. Maybe you have support amongst other neighbours, maybe not.
Then you can decide whether to go with the flow or against it.
Buy a fan -very useful in summer anyway.
In some respects, the legality of cannabis is an issue here, because the OP's neighbor stated that he has a right to smoke weed on his balcony because it is legal. This is what the OP wrote: "I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal."

So the guy thinks he has a right to smoke weed on his balcony even if it bothers his neighbors because he wrongly thinks that it's legal, when in fact, it isn't.
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So the guy thinks he has a right to smoke weed on his balcony even if it bothers his neighbors because he wrongly thinks that it's legal, when in fact, it isn't.
You do realize CBD is very commonly used now? Who knows how the OP confronted his neighbor. Perhaps he threatened to call the cops and the neighbor informed him what he was doing is legal. If the neighbor smoked THC weed as much as OP presented it, he would likely be non functional.
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I seriously believe most people still smoke illegal weed as opposed to CBD. I just don't see the value in smoking an over-priced joint with little mellowing effect.
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You do realize CBD is very commonly used now? Who knows how the OP confronted his neighbor. Perhaps he threatened to call the cops and the neighbor informed him what he was doing is legal. If the neighbor smoked THC weed as much as OP presented it, he would likely be non functional.
Even smoking CBD weed enough to bother your neighbors is illegal here. See my post above about the legal restrictions in regard to bothering your neighbors with smoke, regardless of whether it's a cigarette, etc.

Also, if it was CBD weed that his neighbor is smoking, I think the neighbor would have pointed that out (or perhaps should have at least).

I think people should have the right to comfortably live in their homes without having to deal with a constant nuisance from their neighbors. If the guy wants to smoke his weed or CBD or whatever it is, he can do it inside with a fan on or something without having to bother his neighbors. He smokes it on his balcony because I guess he doesn't want the smell and smoke in his own home, but he expects his neighbors to not have a problem with having to deal with it?
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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

Bring your neighbor a bong and a heat gun. Be cool about it and ask him to please vape his weed when he's at home. It will probably cause you less stress and money in the long haul and you'll have a good neighbor. A friend with weed is a friend indeed.
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You do realize CBD is very commonly used now? Who knows how the OP confronted his neighbor. Perhaps he threatened to call the cops and the neighbor informed him what he was doing is legal. If the neighbor smoked THC weed as much as OP presented it, he would likely be non functional.

And perhaps the neighbour is just an objectionable pri@k! As neither of us know either of these people it is a complete guess. I hate the smell and would also object to being unable to enjoy my balcony because of selfishness of others. If he wants to smoke why not do it inside with his windows shut. I don't know whether OP has a pet (or young child) but marijuana smoke is also extremely toxic and even fatal to pets.
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I think it’s terrible and unfair and have been in OP’s shoes and still am. I see that you have posted the law that is never enforced. If it was, almost all smokers and city restaurants would be without a home or closed. I wish it were!

Best solution is for the OP to contact his landlord and Mietverband.
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Here is actually what the OP said. Not f. Off etc

Another lecturing load of nonsense based on non-factual quotes again...
I dunno, "F. U. you can't do shit" is about as close to F. off one can get. The meaning is the same.

Agree with those who say check the lease before going too much further. Our lease prohibits smoking of any kind in our flat or in the building. Burnt cooking doesn't count though.
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