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Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

We moved into a small town in the canton of Zurich. The town is amazing, close to work, lots of families with kids.

The problem we have is a neighbour who smokes enough marijuana to make pollute our terrace. Now we can't even enjoy our terrace or leave windows open because the marijuana smoke sips in, making the apartment unbearable.

I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal. This took me back, since I was asking him to be considerate, since we can't leave our apartment during the covid lockdown. We now feel like prisoners.

I realized that instead or escalating the issue with the neighbour, I should instead make it by building managements' problem.

I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
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Re: Neighbour's marijuana smoke sipping into our apartment

That's awful. Generally, neighbors tend to be very considerate. If the building mgt doesn't do anything, you may approach the municipality. Marijuana is legal and so is smoking in "your" apartment, as long as it not a nuisance for others.
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We moved into a small town in the canton of Zurich. The town is amazing, close to work, lots of families with kids.

The problem we have is a neighbour who smokes enough marijuana to make pollute our terrace. Now we can't even enjoy our terrace or leave windows open because the marijuana smoke sips in, making the apartment unbearable.

I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal. This took me back, since I was asking him to be considerate, since we can't leave our apartment during the covid lockdown. We now feel like prisoners.

I realized that instead or escalating the issue with the neighbour, I should instead make it by building managements' problem.

I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
Cannabis is not legal in Switzerland. With that in mind it may be explicitly or implicitly prohibited as part of his lease. Maybe even smoking in general on the balcony is? Check your lease basically - hopefully building management can sort it out.
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Marijuana sipping is becoming the " in thing"!

You should be greatful for your free " high " in these lockdown doys.
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Some leases stipulate no smoking so I would start by checking the terms. I wasn't sure if it was legal or not so here is the result of a quick search


https://www.ch.ch/en/cannabis/#akk-77529
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Some leases stipulate no smoking so I would start by checking the terms. I wasn't sure if it was legal or not so here is the result of a quick search


https://www.ch.ch/en/cannabis/#akk-77529
More Swiss government bullshit
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I wasn't sure if it was legal or not so here is the result of a quick search


https://www.ch.ch/en/cannabis/#akk-77529
CBD is legal (weed without the THC that gets you high). It’s almost impossible to tell the difference without a test. Weed with THC isn’t legal. But if you have a small amount, the worst that could happen is a ticket/small fine. Both are smoked widely throughout Switzerland.

If the landlord and the tenant are unwilling to help, then I’m afraid there is nothing that can be done besides moving homes. Try calling or visiting them in person next time. Good luck!

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I seriously doubt your neighbours are consuming legal (less than 1% THC) pot.

Why would they do that if they are not getting high. If it was for medical reasons they would have said so. And if it is just for the CBD there are other ways to consume it that do not involve burning.

Talk to other neighbours, if others are bothered as well it could help.

Join the local renters association. They can certainly help, they know the laws and the proprietorís responsibilities.
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I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
Send your complaint to the management via registered mail. E-mails are often easy to ignore, registered mail carries a different weight.

But you do need to be realistic in your expectations of what management intervention might achieve.

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If the landlord and the tenant are unwilling to help, then I’m afraid there is nothing that can be done besides moving homes.
I'm afraid it may well come down to this.

When a neighbour's behaviour makes living in your flat unbearable, I'm afraid that all too often the only practical remedy is to move.


Hope a resolution can be found - or failing that, a new flat.
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I seriously doubt your neighbours are consuming legal (less than 1% THC) pot.

Why would they do that if they are not getting high. If it was for medical reasons they would have said so. And if it is just for the CBD there are other ways to consume it that do not involve burning.

Talk to other neighbours, if others are bothered as well it could help.

Join the local renters association. They can certainly help, they know the laws and the proprietorís responsibilities.
I hate the smell of my neighbours cooking. Should I take it to the house management?
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We moved into a small town in the canton of Zurich. The town is amazing, close to work, lots of families with kids.

The problem we have is a neighbour who smokes enough marijuana to make pollute our terrace. Now we can't even enjoy our terrace or leave windows open because the marijuana smoke sips in, making the apartment unbearable.

I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal. This took me back, since I was asking him to be considerate, since we can't leave our apartment during the covid lockdown. We now feel like prisoners.

I realized that instead or escalating the issue with the neighbour, I should instead make it by building managements' problem.

I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
So if it was cigarette smoke everything would be just fine. No problem??!!


Move to a ground floor appartment or close your windows. Anything else is a full waste of time. Or learn to communicate your concern to your neighbour!
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So if it was cigarette smoke everything would be just fine. No problem??!!
Not for me. Iíd take weed smell over tobacco any day. But in general, the Swiss are the absolute worst when it comes to respecting others aversion to cigarettes. Now that there are rules at the train stations, they usually respect them there...but otherwise, they will stand within an inch of you at a bus stop and blow it directly into your face.
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Not for me. Iíd take weed smell over tobacco any day. But in general, the Swiss are the absolute worst when it comes to respecting others aversion to cigarettes. Now that there are rules at the train stations, they usually respect them there...but otherwise, they will stand within an inch of you at a bus stop and blow it directly into your face.
yes. Smokers have no respect for others and shit up the environment.
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Seeping slipping or sipping? Which is it?
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People who smoke pot outside should go live next to a pigsty. In my nose, the smells are comparable.
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You can demand a reduced rent until the problem is fixed. The Mieterverband can better inform you about this.

https://www.mieterverband.ch/mv/miet...ar-raucht.html

https://blog.homegate.ch/de/rauchen-...oder-verboten/
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We moved into a small town in the canton of Zurich. The town is amazing, close to work, lots of families with kids.

The problem we have is a neighbour who smokes enough marijuana to make pollute our terrace. Now we can't even enjoy our terrace or leave windows open because the marijuana smoke sips in, making the apartment unbearable.

I asked the neighbour to be considerate. His response, more or less, was f.u., you can't do sh*t, marijuana is legal. This took me back, since I was asking him to be considerate, since we can't leave our apartment during the covid lockdown. We now feel like prisoners.

I realized that instead or escalating the issue with the neighbour, I should instead make it by building managements' problem.

I have emailed the building management company over the past month and a half regarding the offensive smell sipping into our apartment because the neighbour is smoking.

What steps should I take to escalate the issue?
Why not be more obnoxious to him? After all, he told you to F%^* yourself. So, it's war, I say. You need to either break him, adapt, or make him your ally.

I think you need to be creative here. Why not turn on opera (or Yoko Ono, etc.) on your terrace when he's out there? Or spray his joints with water, even if it gets his face. Or put a fan on your terrace when he smokes. Or close your windows and turn on the fan inside.

I mean - you might be making more out of this than necessary. It's cannabis in the air. It does not stick like cigarettes.

But if he is that much of an asshole, let him know you'll be watching him. For example, it he has a lot of foot traffic, maybe he's selling it. Selling it is still illegal, so put a real worry to him to get his behavior more in line. Take some pictures of him and his friends. Ask them to smile while on camera.

I think he'll get the point eventually to make good with you.
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Our neighbour below smokes tobacco. One across the pathway smokes cannabis. I wish they would swop flats.
The law is clear: emission of all kinds that affect neighbours are forbidden. The reality is of course that a certain amount of give and take is required. If you escalate the situation you are likely to get into a lose-lose situation. The owner or agent just wants peace. Smoking cannabis is tolerated to a large extent. Sensitive neighbours are tolerated. Solution?
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Why not be more obnoxious to him? After all, he told you to F%^* yourself. So, it's war, I say. You need to either break him, adapt, or make him your ally.

I think you need to be creative here. Why not turn on opera (or Yoko Ono, etc.) on your terrace when he's out there? Or spray his joints with water, even if it gets his face. Or put a fan on your terrace when he smokes. Or close your windows and turn on the fan inside.

I mean - you might be making more out of this than necessary. It's cannabis in the air. It does not stick like cigarettes.

But if he is that much of an asshole, let him know you'll be watching him. For example, it he has a lot of foot traffic, maybe he's selling it. Selling it is still illegal, so put a real worry to him to get his behavior more in line. Take some pictures of him and his friends. Ask them to smile while on camera.

I think he'll get the point eventually to make good with you.
You made me laugh, sounds like a good movie script and what is not to try out there in these long quarantine days . But I don't think that somebody who's hooked would "get the point eventually to make good with OP" and for example smoke elsewhere or quit. OP's neighbor has a problem and OP should deal with the fall out through management or the association of renters.
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People who smoke pot outside should go live next to a pigsty. In my nose, the smells are comparable.
Lets not discriminate the poor little piggies. After all you do eat them
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