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Water Softeners in Switzerland

We are having a lot of stomach problems for us & kids with hard water, not to mention frizzy hair, dryness. Agent says this is common in switzerland and folks dont normally have water softeners. However, others have said something else. What has been your experience with water hardness and do most people have water softeners installed in more modern houses and apartments? thanks.
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Old 08.01.2017, 14:23
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

They are quite common in hard water areas I think.
We have one and do do our neighbours.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

I had one installed in my house as limescale was caking all the taps, washing machines and pipes.

It might be my imagination but I don't seem to need to scale my teeth as often after installing it too.
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Yes, it was the 1st thing we had put in when we last moved ... ok, the kids beat us to it with the WiFi but in terms of actual necessities, we have a water softener machine. You will pay installation, the machine cost & probably a maintenance contract.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

Unless your water is supplied from a lake, it will be hard here (and rather good). Yes, water softeners are common, though there has to be a question about the environmental effect of dumping 100Kgs of salt a year into the drainage system...
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Unless your water is supplied from a lake, it will be hard here (and rather good). Yes, water softeners are common, though there has to be a question about the environmental effect of dumping 100Kgs of salt a year into the drainage system...
There was me thinking you were going to mention all the salt scattered along the roads, pavements going into the drainage system. Classic.
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Not sure about your area- but here salt is hardly ever used on the roads anymore, for that very reason.

hard water is actually good for your heart, if I remember rightly.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

Thanks. So i conclude they are common from the responses so far. So, why would the landlord want to save money on that and want the tenant to put it in - are they so expensive to install and maintain? Yes, we have the same issues on the pots, pans, taps and teeth as well!
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

A lot of newer apartment buildings do have water softeners installed. Guess it is also beneficial for them as the gadgets have less wear and tear in the long run.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

In Winterthur area I believe it's a must-be gadget.
After boiling a pot of water you easily get to close to 1mm of calc on the bottom...not mentioning what is last after a shower, so, I installed one and although it's not very common, it's somehow getting more and more popular
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A lot of newer apartment buildings do have water softeners installed. Guess it is also beneficial for them as the gadgets have less wear and tear in the long run.


I got one, not so much because i had to replace the gadgets themselves as the calc cause minor issues, but these minor issues end up with me having to pay the local plumber Fr.200 everytime to fix.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

has anyone bought an over the counter water softener for drinking water? I am not really interested in reverse osmosis. thanks!

btw looks like amazon is here in a month or two.
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has anyone bought an over the counter water softener for drinking water? I am not really interested in reverse osmosis. thanks!

btw looks like amazon is here in a month or two.
There's no other way to soften water in the home. Don't get suckered into any of the scams!

Reverse osmosis works brilliantly well.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

You can check your water hardness here.

http://trinkwasser.ch/index.php?id=813&L=1

Here is the CH map. Red is hardest. Click on the map. Then click again to have maximum size. We normally talk about the French hardness scale.

https://www.icstech.ch/sanitaire/dur...eau-en-suisse/

Here are the different ranges (in FR) of how water is classed in CH.

La dureté de l'eau en Suisse est classée en 6 catégories:

très douce 0 - 7 °fh
douce 7 - 15 °fh
mi-dure 15 - 25 °fh
assez dure 25 - 30 °fh
dure 30 - 38 °fh
très dure > 38 °fh
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Does anyone use a water softener for drinking water? Hard water is good for you and tastes great.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

Our water is naturally soft, so no need.

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Re: are water softeners common in CH

I had a water softener in another country but I bypassed the drinking water tap in the kitchen, firstly for health reasons, and secondly you only see a real financial benefit from the water systems that are heated or are the the supply for dish washers and washing machines.
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Does anyone use a water softener for drinking water? Hard water is good for you and tastes great.
We use Brita water filters, which remove a lot of the calcium, for water used in cooking and for hot drinks, but mainly to reduce limescale rather than the taste (although it does make a big difference in tea . For drinking water, including fizzed with a sodastream and/or chilled from the fridge dispenser I don't see the point.
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Re: are water softeners common in CH

My best way of removing any calc growth in appliances is to buy one-litre bottles of lemon juice (much cheaper than small ones), use it to decalc things. Less chemicals, eco-friendly and very effective. When i have leftover lemon bits (from fish and chips dinner), i just smother and squeeze those leftover lemon bits over the kitchen tap and any areas affected by calc. Half hour later, wipe with a wet cloth (bang! And the calc is gone!)
Pour lemon juice into a kettle, add water, heat it up to about 60 degrees, leave for an hour.

I admit, when i see a problem, i just whip my lemon juice bottle out and start spraying...

Just saw it was about drinking water... Brita filters or boiled and then cooled water (you'd still need that lemon juice for the kettle though)...

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Re: are water softeners common in CH

For removing calc build-ups in appliances - vinegar works great too, well vinegar and water. At least for the kettle.

As for the kitchen sink area you need a good abrasive sponge and some Cif creme to make it sparkle. Any other eco-friendly solution e.g. baking soda etc never really do it for me.
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