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gone 20.05.2020 00:40

Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Hello,

I recently moved out of my apartment in Geneva and all went well, however my Regie has added a line asking for 250 CHF for the heating charges. I only paid the balance of the previous heating period in October 210 CHF), so I'm sceptical about that amount. Is this standard practice rather than sending a bill at the end of the heating period asking for the exact amount?

Thanks in advance for the help!

roegner 20.05.2020 07:53

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Bumping this as it was posted rather late

KiwiSteve 20.05.2020 07:59

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Yes it should be exact and at the end of a heating period but if Fr 210 was for a summer period, then Fr 250 over winter sound OK (it will be heating and hot water?)

gone 20.05.2020 11:29

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Thanks for the answer and the bump! I paid always for the entire year and the 210 last year was quite an outlier (I had paid about 80 the previous year). It is heating and hot water, but just the surplus over what is already included in the monthly rent. They asked me to sign and return both the constat d'etat des lieux and the convention de sortie (the etat des lieux was done without us due to Covid). Is there some way to indicate that I disagree with the fee for the heating without a bill?

KiwiSteve 20.05.2020 11:47

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
My french is not good, so I am not sure what you have signed -if the bill was included on the signed form then you may have a problem. Again, it is a reason for being a member of the tenants association (ASLOCA). It is not too late to join now ; they have so much experience dealing with this kind of issue. Normally just mentioning their name will work wonders.

gone 22.05.2020 13:10

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Right, thanks for the tip with Asloca, I'll talk to them! Just for clarification: I haven't signed anything yet, I was just wondering if I could add a sentence to the documents to be signed indicating that I disagree with specific points. :)

curley 22.05.2020 13:42

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Normally you pay "Nebenkosten" (chauffage et charges) monthly in addition to the rent. Once a year they do the proper calculation of what's been used and who used it. Then you get an extra bill or they return some money, depending on the outcome.

When you move out, you basically have to wait until that point of year they do this. Then they send you a bill or return money. If you leave the country (handle "gone"?) it makes sense if you just agree on an estimate and have it done.

Urs Max 22.05.2020 20:50

Re: Moving out and asked to pay heating charges for entire year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gone (Post 3183182)
Hello,

I recently moved out of my apartment in Geneva and all went well, however my Regie has added a line asking for 250 CHF for the heating charges. I only paid the balance of the previous heating period in October 210 CHF), so I'm sceptical about that amount. Is this standard practice rather than sending a bill at the end of the heating period asking for the exact amount?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Yes, demanding the outstanding balance is standard practice. The question is what amount is justified.

Because heating is limited to October through March you pay part of the costs of the previous heating period during the warm months. Some months will be missing for the current period so the balance should be expected to be higher this time, though that may be (partially) balanced this year by the lower need to heat (roughly 15% less degrès-jours this past winter). Fuel costs may have been higher though. If you disagree with what they want as balance you can always request an exact calculation for the period, that's your right.

If you disagree with parts of the état you could confirm receipt somewhere other than the dotted line by stating just that and refer to your remarks on the back.


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